The level of stupidity and incompetence on the United board is just too damn high.
If the Guardian article is to be believed this, like Moyes has nothing to do with the board and is a Woodward call, which in itself is stupid given his record of procrastinating and deferring before being able to pull the trigger on anything.
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Woodward is solely responsible for Van Gaal’s future and who will manage United in the long term. Sir Alex Ferguson, the club’s most successful manager who is now a director, has no knowledge of Woodward’s thinking regarding Van Gaal. Woodward talks daily with Joe Glazer, the joint-chairman, and the American family will back Woodward whatever he decides. When David Moyes, Van Gaal’s predecessor, was sacked Ferguson was unaware of the move and in his book, My Autobiography, made it clear other supposed powerful figures in the hierarchy were not consulted by Woodward either. Of a claimed hotel meeting he wrote: “I would like to know which hotel, because I wasn’t there. Nor were [directors] Bobby Charlton, David Gill or Mike Edelson.”
Match Day revenue is only a part of the picture. City is the latest club to get the title "Big Club" and they still lag behind the others in terms of commercial revenue. Even though they have moved to a new ground, their rise has required massive amounts of outside investment. Are the gate receipts at New WHL going be that much greater than Middle Eastlands? Are Spurs going to suddenly command commercial deals as large as United? With West Ham moving to a new ground as well, what makes Spurs better positioned than The Irons?
It is true that there is a significant gap between a few clubs and the rest in terms of overall revenues. I looked at a chart that showed the overall value and its kind of Man U and everyone else. That data was from a couple years ago though. There are a few 'other' positives about the ground though. One is the NFL deal which should bring a chunk of revenue over the next decade (IIRC), and the capability to host those events in general.
In reality though, the big cure is winning. There are no guarantees that way, but they're looking like they're on the right track. I am under no delusions here in the sense that I think a few games they needed points from and got nothing or a single. Like Newcastle is an obvious one that I thought they needed and instead lost in injury time. Even the loss against Leicester ought to have seen them draw I think. But they're looking OK, solidly top four for now and within reason have a shot at the title. If they qualify for Europe they make a lot more money, and that's far from certain, but possible at this point.
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Match Day revenue is only a part of the picture. City is the latest club to get the title "Big Club" and they still lag behind the others in terms of commercial revenue. Even though they have moved to a new ground, their rise has required massive amounts of outside investment. Are the gate receipts at New WHL going be that much greater than Middle Eastlands? Are Spurs going to suddenly command commercial deals as large as United? With West Ham moving to a new ground as well, what makes Spurs better positioned than The Irons?
They already basically even with Man City/Liverpool in Matchday Revenue in a much smaller stadium. So with a full stadium in London, they will be much closer to the Arsenal/United number than City/Liverpool.
West Ham's match day revenue and commercial revenue is half of theirs currently and they play in a stadium that is the same size
Daniel Levy, the chairman, added: “We have fantastic, strong support. Our [current] 36,000-seat stadium sells out and the waiting list for season-ticket holders is in excess of 47,000.
Commercial revenue is tricky because so much of it is tied to the CL and also when you signed it
Arsenal's commercial revenue in 2012 was 9m higher than Spurs, they signed their new Puma deal in 2014 and the difference became 35m, but even they are way behind the top teams in Europe based on the 2014 numbers
True but doesn't that mean that the richest also got richer?
Yes put as a percentage of growth revenue has risen exponentially compared to cost, so technically its a better time to build now, there will be a quicker turn around in reducing debt because income has risen so much
They already basically even with Man City/Liverpool in Matchday Revenue in a much smaller stadium. So with a full stadium in London, they will be much closer to the Arsenal/United number than City/Liverpool.
Commercial revenue is tricky because so much of it is tied to the CL and also when you signed it
Just like with West Ham, will they be able to keep it full? If they do manage to keep it full, is this amount going to make-up for the shortfall in commercial revenue? City, Chelsea and PSG are their own commercial sponsors and the other clubs pulling in more than £100m in commercial revenue are historically massive clubs.
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Yes put as a percentage of growth revenue has risen exponentially compared to cost, so technically its a better time to build now, there will be a quicker turn around in reducing debt because income has risen so much
I was alluding to the fact that City, Chelsea and United have also received a boost to their purchasing power. A £80m fee of yesteryear could be £100m this year.
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“Such suburban models are being rationalized as ‘what people want,’ when in fact they are simply what is most expedient to produce. The truth is that what people want is a decent place to live, not just a suburban version of a decent place to live.”
In a bit of transfer news, apparently Spurs have sent Andros Townsend to Newcastle for $12mm (pounds but I don't know how to make that symbol!) and at the same time Crystal Palace has apparently signed Adebayor.
I think that Townsend fee for Spurs is a great deal. Adebayor going to Palace is so sensible as they just can't score, and regardless of other issues, he's a solid goal scorer.
I think the townsend deal is good for both sides, he's a very direct player which Newcastle need
12m£ is a fair price for a proven PL player, especially an English one
lol yeah, as a Spurs fan I'd also be pleased with this deal. Levy has now offloaded Townsend, Capoue, Paulinho and Stambouli for a combined £34m, that's incredible. Only Chelsea are as good when it comes to turning garbage players into money.
How long is the Adebayor deal? If it's only for the rest of the season, then well done Palace. If it's any longer, they will regret this. Adebayor will start well, have ~5 solid games and then return to his usual ####ty self, as always.
I dont think selling out will be an issue at all, as I posted above they sell out WHL, and Levy says the ST wait list is 47000
Part of my point is that even if they do sell out, that is only part of the pie and we are both competing against some commercial heavyweights. It's not scientific but I started playing Football Manager 2016 this past weekend and it had Spurs' reputation as Continental. While they obviously have supporters Worldwide, I've noticed that even when Arsenal are doing poor and locals don't go to the Emirates the seats are simply filled with tourists. As such, form doesn't really affect attendance for Arsenal or United.
West Ham is going to struggle to match this ability, what about Spurs?
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Manchester United legend Nemanja Vidic has released a statement to ManUtd.com announcing his retirement from football.
The former Reds skipper, who recently left Inter Milan, has decided to call time on his career at the age of 34.
"The time has come for me to hang up my boots," he said. "The injuries I have had in the last few years have taken their toll.
What a beast of a defender he was in his prime. His partnership with Ferdinand was incredible - to me, that was the best CB pairing in the world for a few years before age and injuries slowed them down. Always one of my favourite United players, a true leader and a great captain. I hated how his United career ended - just like Rio, his post-United career was more than underwhelming. Should have retired a Red ...
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I caught the end of the Colchester v Spurs match and I like Colchester's ground. Not very pretty but a modern ground with traditional form yet no faux-historicism. The 10,00 strong were probably louder than the contingent at the Emirates...
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I caught the end of the Colchester v Spurs match and I like Colchester's ground. Not very pretty but a modern ground with traditional form yet no faux-historicism. The 10,00 strong were probably louder than the contingent at the Emirates...
they were loud all game
was a great atmosphere for a cup game, helped that it had 5 goals and I think 5 shots off the post
think their manager played it right, didn't set up to park the bus
