Moronic All Star Game Suspensions

[Coach]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I despise all star games, in general, and the NHL ASG is one of the worst, as it, in almost NO way resembles the game as it's SUPPOSED to be played.

Yeah! Be like the NFL and do it before your championship game so none of the players from the top two teams go.

Yeah! Be like the NBA where people dress up in clown uniforms and do a dunk competition.

Yeah! Be like the MLB game where they ludicrously give home field advantage in their championship series to the division that wins, rather than choosing, you know, the best team.

Don't act like the NHL is any better or worse than any of these things. The 3 on 3 format actually has me interested. It's the best thing they could have done for the game IMO.

[tknez16]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Worse than the loser point? LoL, that's rich.

In sports, if there is no winner, then it's a tie. Ties make intuitive sense. The hack point system the NHL uses to attract fair weather fans needs to be "killed and burned"

It should just be W-L-T

3 points for win, 1 for tie. Nothing for losing.

Every time I've watched a tie, I've felt ripped off at the end. A game without a winner is just incomplete.

I don't like the point system though. Should be 3 for regulation/OT win, 2 for shootout win, 1 for SO loss, 0 reg loss. Same number of points every game and extra incentive to end it before a shootout.

[Yorkshire Flame]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Yeah! Be like the NFL and do it before your championship game so none of the players from the top two teams go.

Yeah! Be like the NBA where people dress up in clown uniforms and do a dunk competition.

Yeah! Be like the MLB game where they ludicrously give home field advantage in their championship series to the division that wins, rather than choosing, you know, the best team.

Don't act like the NHL is any better or worse than any of these things. The 3 on 3 format actually has me interested. It's the best thing they could have done for the game IMO.

When did I mention the NFL/NBA/MLB? I absolutely do not give two ####s about any of the aforementioned leagues. It's not that I think any one particular format is better than another, it's that personally don't give two ####s about the premise itself.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by heep223

Good god man, yes, yes it's way worse than the loser point.

The wonderful thing about living in Canada is that you have a god given right to be wrong.

[Yorkshire Flame]

Originally Posted by heep223

Good god man, yes, yes it's way worse than the loser point.

So it's terrible to think that two teams, on a particular day, are evenly matched? The NA obsession with requiring a winner just confounds me. Ties don't inherently mean boring.

[heep223]

Agree to disagree, gents!

The current system is no good but nothing is worse than ties.

[GirlySports]

love ties, teams are not always equal and sometimes the underdog works it's arse off the earn a tie.

with the loser point, teams play it safe and just kind of agree to make it a tie.

I've post my cricket example a million times on here so I'll spare you all.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Flame

When did I mention the NFL/NBA/MLB? I absolutely do not give two ####s about any of the aforementioned leagues. It's not that I think any one particular format is better than another, it's that personally don't give two ####s about the premise itself.

Did I quote you?

The game is for kids. Get over yourself.

[saillias]

Which is why it's sponsored by DraftKings and Budweiser! For. The. Kids.

[Coach]

I guess they outbid PBS and Toys R Us.

"Daddy, daddy! The all-star game is sponsored by Draft Kings and Budweiser. Can I get a line on the Metro vs Pacific division game? Bring me a Bud while you're at it!" Said zero kids ever.

I just can't understand why grown adults care about this game to the point that they actually care about the format, whether or not John Scott plays, etc. For a bunch of people clambering about how stupid the whole idea is, it amazes me how upset people get over minor details.

[Philly06Cup]

Feels like something the NHLPA and owners should discuss in their CBA. If the players hate it that much, bargain out of it.

[burnitdown]

I could be wrong but I thought players were only suspended if they pulled out of the all-star weekend entirely. I thought there were cases were players felt sick/injured so they didn't play in the game itself, but still showed up for all the events...so they weren't suspended. If that's true, I don't see how anyone could complain that Toews or Ovechkin are getting suspended 1 game for skipping the events. It's clear they just want no part of it and would rather the vacation.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

I could be wrong but I thought players were only suspended if they pulled out of the all-star weekend entirely. I thought there were cases were players felt sick/injured so they didn't play in the game itself, but still showed up for all the events...so they weren't suspended. If that's true, I don't see how anyone could complain that Toews or Ovechkin are getting suspended 1 game for skipping the events. It's clear they just want no part of it and would rather the vacation.

I don't know.. that's a slippery slope. Has anyone embraced the point of the all-star game more than Ovechkin in the last decade? The hat and goofy glasses, the baseball swings, the trying to get picked last to get the car. That guy named Crosby has missed so many of these things with no punishment and they purposely didn't name him to the team this year to avoid having to suspend him.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

I could be wrong but I thought players were only suspended if they pulled out of the all-star weekend entirely. I thought there were cases were players felt sick/injured so they didn't play in the game itself, but still showed up for all the events...so they weren't suspended. If that's true, I don't see how anyone could complain that Toews or Ovechkin are getting suspended 1 game for skipping the events. It's clear they just want no part of it and would rather the vacation.

Crosby did it in 2009. He was injured but still took part in all the other events so they didn't suspend him.

[Yrebmi]

A while back CP discussed the merit of the NHL having a week off in say late December.
Maybe if this was implemented we wouldn't see so many players preferring to skip the ASG.
I get it.
As for respect, I don't see the ASG as worthy of respect. For me it's an annoying side show to tolerate before we can get back to real hockey.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by heep223

Agree to disagree, gents!

The current system is no good but nothing is worse than ties.

Disagree to disagree! Come to our side of the debate!

See:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

love ties, teams are not always equal and sometimes the underdog works it's arse off the earn a tie.

with the loser point, teams play it safe and just kind of agree to make it a tie.

I've post my cricket example a million times on here so I'll spare you all.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Disagree to disagree! Come to our side of the debate!

See:

Tie is the most anticlimactic event in sports. I'd rather see the underdog team work their ass off to tie, then have the opportunity to win in OT. If the favourite ends up winning that's fine the underdog got a point.

Also that poster you quoted thinks that the current version of the game is "too fast", and would rather see hockey as it was in the 80s when goalies would come 30 feet out of the net. 'Nuff said.

[saillias]

Hey I like ties too!

As a fan of ties I imagine this is what a Nickelback fan must feel like. You think "well this band/sports concept works for me" but you've noticed the vast majority of the general public seethes with rage at the mere mention of it. So you don't bring it up. But you secretly want it back.

[spuzzum]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...422357?cmp=rss

What happens if you are declared dead by the Canada Revenue Agency? Can you skip all-star weekend and not get suspended?

[thefoss1957]

I don't mind ties...the first Live game I saw at the old Barn on Madison was a THRILLING 3-3 tie, Boxing Day, 1964...Glenn Hall vs. Johnny Bower of the Leafs.

But the truth is, with the dilution of talent that expansion brought, coaches really started just playing for the ONE point like it was precious.

For myself, I'd like to see 3 point win, no regular season OT, 1 point Ties, to reward teams that GO FOR WINS. Then we would see less shut down, boring, third periods, as they usually occur, now, in tie games, as coaches aren't willing to risk anything for the point already in the bag. Teams that WIN in regulation DESERVE to pull away from the gutlessly coached teams that play for ties plus the garbage gimmick 3 on 3 OT/shootout.