Wideman Decision Expected Wednesday

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Hackey

You think he's suspended indefinitely and has to come in for a meeting so they can give him a warning?

Have they said in person hearing yet? Not that I know of.

And it's possible, yes. I would hope the NHL doesn't jump to conclusions like a lot of posters here.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure why the new thread announcing the suspension was locked. I thought it's been well established that forcing CPers to navigate mega-threads to find information as events unfold is villainous, and new events are worthy of new threads.

probably because there isn't really a suspension yet

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they probably want his side of the story not the social media bs...probably a suspension at this point still not guaranteed to be a long one

I'm sure you could get his side of the story over the phone.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

That's completely different. Bertuzzi fully intended to hit Moore, and fully intended to hurt him. He was reckless as to the consequences. Wideman, unless he's lying, didn't intend any contact at all.

You expect him to say he meant to?

At this point what he says doesn't really matter.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by BigNumbers

OP seems a bit of a troll....

I find it funny that I actually turned out to be correct in my assumptions. See, most trolls typically argue in favour of something ridiculous/stupid, where in fact the thing I was arguing towards was based with valid points and hey, he ended up getting suspended.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Have they said in person hearing yet? Not that I know of.

And it's possible, yes. I would hope the NHL doesn't jump to conclusions like a lot of posters here.

How angry will you be when they announce the suspension?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they probably want his side of the story not the social media bs...probably a suspension at this point still not guaranteed to be a long one

I think they are just recognizing that it is a complicated issue and don't want to make a rushed decision on it.

I do think he gets a some kind of token punishment, but I will be really disappointed if they punish it as a deliberate act.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I'm sure you could get his side of the story over the phone.

If it's a phone hearing it can only be 5 games or less. They have to offer an in person hearing for more.

I'm not sure if that also applies in this situation though.

[TheScorpion]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 13m13 minutes ago
Details being finalized. Appears Wideman hearing targeting Tuesday

[pgsieve]

Originally Posted by saillias

Not sure why the new thread announcing the suspension was locked. I thought it's been well established that forcing CPers to navigate mega-threads to find information as events unfold is villainous, and new events are worthy of new threads.

To me it makes sense to lock this thread and continue the conversation with the new info in the other thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I'm sure you could get his side of the story over the phone.

Has it been confirmed to be in person

and before getting too smug maybe we should wait for the actual suspension

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Has it been confirmed to be in person

and before getting too smug maybe we should wait for the actual suspension

I just sent a tweet to Dreger, awaiting a response.

[ZedMan]

Most likely "suspended indefinitely" has more to do with the ASG than the severity of the penalty.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Hackey

How angry will you be when they announce the suspension?

Not angry at all, but I will think it's ridiculous. It will be another example of what a joke the discipline in the NHL is.

[Badgers Nose]

Pure speculation: I think Wideman is not 100%. He might be hurt, or his head is someplace else.

Jokes aside, a suspension might force him to take some time off and get 100%.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Has it been confirmed to be in person

and before getting too smug maybe we should wait for the actual suspension

If they just wanted to talk to him I'd imagine they could have already done that but who knows, maybe they are just that busy right now and don't have the time.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Hackey

If they just wanted to talk to him I'd imagine they could have already done that but who knows, maybe they are just that busy right now and don't have the time.

I think it's more to do with they don't want the decision to overshadow the ASG.

[TheScorpion]

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 3m3 minutes ago
1) Two things on Wideman hearing. First, I'd expect he'd be offered the opportunity to be there in person to explain his case....

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m1 minute ago
2) Health of linesman Don Henderson important factor. Went to hospital for precautionary reasons, now home -- thankfully. Will he miss time?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Or zero games, which seems the most likely for what could only be an accidental collision.

The NHL is well within thief rights to fully review all of the testimony, and has the time to do so, because of the all star break.

True. But if they have already announced a suspension, the odds that Campbell reverses and lifts the suspension without a game is rather small.

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I am pretty sure that referees are granted some discretion when issuing match penalties though, especially if it was personal a safety issue. It replaced the concept of gross misconducts a few years ago. I am also pretty sure that they can add one on at the end of the game to the official score sheet thereby ensuring a review by the league (albeit making the ejection issue moot).

Maybe they did add one last night? I didn't check. If they though what Wideman did was intentional, they should have.

A few things.

First, no match penalties did not replace gross misconducts. Though abuse of officials was formerly a gross misconduct, it is now - like all infractions that fell under that rule - a game misconduct. And no, the referees cannot simply add a game misconduct penalty at the end of the game. What they can do is file a report with the league. That has the same practical effect of what you are now arguing, but it still does not retroactively apply a penalty to the game sheet.

[Otto-matic]

Ever been hit in the face with a ball? You lose your surroundings and reaction time momentarily. He may not have been concussed, I don't think the Flames would let a guy play if he showed any signs of a concussion.