Accidental or not that was reckless and it resulted in a ref getting hit in the numbers near the boards.
Wideman is responsible for himself when he is on the ice. The same way a player is responsible for his stick and avoiding the head on contact.
I don't buy the dazed excuse. I am sure he was a bit dazed after the hit. But he was fine 2 seconds after sitting on the bench and he finished out the game.
Personally I don't see a suspension coming. He isn't a dirty player, there was no resulting injury, and he was hit prior to the incident. But I do believe it was reckless.
Countless players have been "fine" after two seconds on the bench and finished a game after being "dazed". 31 NHLers in 2011. Around 1/3 of all concussed players. You can't use the fact that he finished the game as evidence that he wasn't "dazed".
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here's the Daniel Carcillo incident that warranted a 10 game suspension (in the playoffs, I might add). I gotta say, that looked pretty tame by comparison to what Wideman did. Obviously, it will come down to what his intention was, but it looks pretty nasty.
I must say the video is just a clip and looks bad, however here is my story for some non believers that may help explain it.
In midget hockey, I got tripped up on a full speed breakaway. Hit the end boards head on and literally bounced back 3 feet. Coaches ran on the ice before the play was whistled. They took me to the bench and on the way I was tapping my stick, for myself..... They asked me questions on the bench which I answered correctly. They sent me out for another shift, I rocked a guy, had a great scoring chance. Came off and went back out for another shift. When I came back to the bench, I started asking strange questions like where we were, what the score was (I was starring at the score clock). They took me to the room, helped me get undressed, I went to the shower on my own and turned on the hot only. The game ended and players came in to find me standing there dazed in the scalding hot water. They took me to the hospital and checked me out, I was full on concussed. With the doctors looking in my eyes with a flashlight, about an hour after the initial hit, that was the first thing I recalled since the breakaway.
It may appear wideman was acting on his own, but I a have no doubt he wasn't in control of himself. Just from my own experience, when my line mates told me of all these events I just explained after the crash into the boards, I didn't believe it. A hockey mom was taping the game and they gave me the footage, I had chills watching myself out there. It wasn't me controlling myself, I'll never forget that feeling. After the game On the drive home, I vommit for the whole 2 hour drive, it was like the worse hangover I ever had times 10 and lasted for 3 weeks straight. It had to have been 3 years before I was completely symptom free.
Did wideman do this purposely, not a chance.
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I must say the video is just a clip and looks bad, however here is my story for some non believers that may help explain it.
In midget hockey, I got tripped up on a full speed breakaway. Hit the end boards head on and literally bounced back 3 feet. Coaches ran on the ice before the play was whistled. They took me to the bench and on the way I was tapping my stick, for myself..... They asked me questions on the bench which I answered correctly. They sent me out for another shift, I rocked a guy, had a great scoring chance. Came off and went back out for another shift. When I came back to the bench, I started asking strange questions like where we were, what the score was (I was starring at the score clock). They took me to the room, helped me get undressed, I went to the shower on my own and turned on the hot only. The game ended and players came in to find me standing there dazed in the scalding hot water. They took me to the hospital and checked me out, I was full on concussed. With the doctors looking in my eyes with a flashlight, about an hour after the initial hit, that was the first thing I recalled since the breakaway.
It may appear wideman was acting on his own, but I a have no doubt he wasn't in control of himself. Just from my own experience, when my line mates told me of all these events I just explained after the crash into the boards, I didn't believe it. A hockey mom was taping the game and they gave me the footage, I had chills watching myself out there. It wasn't me controlling myself, I'll never forget that feeling. After the game On the drive home, I vommit for the whole 2 hour drive, it was like the worse hangover I ever had times 10 and lasted for 3 weeks straight. It had to have been 3 years before I was completely symptom free.
Did wideman do this purposely, not a chance.
That's a great post. Your points totally make sense.
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here's the Daniel Carcillo incident that warranted a 10 game suspension (in the playoffs, I might add). I gotta say, that looked pretty tame by comparison to what Wideman did. Obviously, it will come down to what his intention was, but it looks pretty nasty.
The only logical explanation is the explanation that Wideman gave.
If Wideman intended anything, the whole incident would look much different than it did.
For a hockey player holding a stick, raising arms to brace for an impact looks a lot like a cross check, especially when it happens at the last minute.
Wideman cross checking a linesman, just "at random", doesn't make any sense.
No? Are you prepared to argue that the linesman was at fault for being on the receiving end of a cross-check?
he accidentally backs into a player
player accidentally hits him
both are at "fault" nobody intended anything its an accident. His job is to avoid the players, Wideman skates from the corner to the bench along the boards the entire time. Right before contact Wideman is the one who steps aside.
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Eric Francis mentions in his column that if the NHL suspends Wideman for 10 or more games that the NHLPA has already suggested they will grieve the ruling as no penalty was called on the incident.
Clearly a head injury and is out of it heading to the bench. I suspect no suspension, however wouldn't mind seeing him suspended for rest of season because he is absolutely awful. Almost fell asleep at the game tonight. This team stinks. #TANKNATION
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I think wideman was totally out-of-it and the only fine should be to Flames management for continuing to let him play when he should of been in the quiet room. That's he only explanation that makes sense to me. Even if said he was fine if you watch the video he didn't look fine, it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to concussions.
Very strange. I was at the game and had no idea this play even happened. The video looks bad, but is definitely out of character for Wideman. Based on his reputation, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was drowsy after the hit,saw a body in front of him, and his initial reaction was to push. Had that been a player and not a linesman, this wouldn't even be a talking point.
So if Wideman was so out of it to not know what was going on (extremely reasonable presumption), I'm curious what the NHL's concussion spotter thought of it.
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Daly said the role of the spotter is to identify and flag incidents that have led to players on the ice demonstrating visible signs of a concussion.
The spotter, who is expected to sit in the press box, has a two-way radio in order to communicate what he or she has seen with the training staff on the bench to properly notify a team of a player demonstrating possible signs of a concussion.
Daly said the responsibilities of diagnosing concussions or medically determining if a player can return to play belong to the medical professionals employed by the team in question.
Off grabbing a pocket dog?
Or did they just add a tally-mark to the "Looked like a Concussion For Sure" column on their game clipboard and put the heels up?
C'mon guys. Wideman misses shots all the time. Has defensive lapses, trips himself in a shoutout. Can nobody honestly believe that Wideman of all people can't stupidly bulldoze an official by accident?
Let's be real. "Huh?" Would be the title of Wideman's book
So if Wideman was so out of it to not know what was going on (extremely reasonable presumption), I'm curious what the NHL's concussion spotter thought of it.
Off grabbing a pocket dog?
But we really don't know one way or the other whether the spotter flagged the incident. He is under instruction to be in contact with the bench under these circumstances, and for all we know he did just that. His responsibility ends once the team is alerted.
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You've never seen a player get hit hard by an opponent and act aggressively right after?
I'm sorry but I don't believe the I had my head down and couldn't stop so I put my stick up to protect myself excuse (when in fact in the video it looks like the opposite).
I think Wideman was angry about being hit hard and in pain and took it out on the first person that he came into contact with.
He made a mistake that he probably immediately regretted. Thats the way I see it anyway.
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