Shooter in Saskatchewan?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Things are getting crazier all the time. My son's school went on lockdown a couple weeks when two guys with guns were spotted in the forest behind the school. Completely nerve wracking to watch the police speed down the street outside of your house with their sirens blazing as they drive to your child's school. I pretty much had a three hour long anxiety attack until it was resolved, though no one was caught. Now my wife won't let him walk to school because she's still so upset about it.

At least someone is keeping an eye on things and the police are responding effectively. In December there was an attempted abduction in our neighbourhood, two blocks down from my kids school. The police visited the three other schools in our neighbourhood and told them about the situation (I'm not sure if they did a lockdown.) The police never came to my son's school (the nearest school to the attempted abduction.) Our school officials did not find out about the situation until later that night when it was reported in the news.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

At least someone is keeping an eye on things and the police are responding effectively. In December there was an attempted abduction in our neighbourhood, two blocks down from my kids school. The police visited the three other schools in our neighbourhood and told them about the situation (I'm not sure if they did a lockdown.) The police never came to my son's school (the nearest school to the attempted abduction.) Our school officials did not find out about the situation until later that night when it was reported in the news.

For sure, I was impressed with the response and very grateful that there are brave men and women that are willing to lay it on the line to protect our children. It's just sad that the world is like this now, there was never anything like this when I was a kid.

I'm sorry to hear they didn't respond as effectively in your case, but it must be really tough to do that job. Hopefully they had a reason not to go, and it wasn't incompetence or laziness. I always want to give the police the benefit of the doubt even though there's a ton of bad stories or there that can justifiably make people jaded.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by polak

You don't know how many shooters there are or where they are.

And you want to remove potential targets from the shooter, not give them more panicked ones to be shooting at.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The police never came to my son's school (the nearest school to the attempted abduction.) Our school officials did not find out about the situation until later that night when it was reported in the news.

Abductions are very different from active shooters. They are almost always done by someone the abductee knows. The schools that were likely notified were likely related in some way to the abductor. They may have had a kid in each, for instance.

Lockdowns are also the call of the school, not the police. Generally, the principle has to make that call on their own.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Lockdowns are also the call of the school, not the police. Generally, the principle has to make that call on their own.

But the school authorities can't make any decisions if the police fail to notify them of a potential situation. I need to see if I can dig up the email sent from our Principal the next morning but from what I remember she was pretty pissed regarding how the situation was handled.

[Jordan!]

I work for the federal gov here in the U.S. had to do a manditory active shooter training. Sadly this is the world we live in folks.

[Ducay]

CBC says 5 dead now. Fak

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Any more details? I'm seeing reports of five dead and two more wounded? Nothing further though.

First thoughts should be for the victims obviously, but if I'm honest, my mind immediately jumped to "someone in the GOP Presidential race is going to point to this incident as an example of how gun control laws don't prevent mass shootings."

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Any more details? I'm seeing reports of five dead and two more wounded? Nothing further though.

First thoughts should be for the victims obviously, but if I'm honest, my mind immediately jumped to "someone in the GOP Presidential race is going to point to this incident as an example of how gun control laws don't prevent mass shootings."

Its a fair thought and one I came to quickly as well. Any mass shooting here will likely make it that much harder to stop them in the US (via gun control), and by product here in Canada. (Media attention of shootings there likely increases prevalence here)

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

I work for the federal gov here in the U.S. had to do a manditory active shooter training. Sadly this is the world we live in folks.

I think each school here (in Calgary) has to do 6 a year. 2 announced, and 4 not-announced.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by troutman

Tragic.

My son (12) had to do a lockdown drill at school this week. What kind of world is this?

I went to Sahali High school in Kamloops for a few years and they have steel shutters that go over the windows. I knever understood why because it was the only school to have them . It was in one of the nicer neighborhood s to which might explain why tho.

[tjinaz]

First thoughts should be for the victims obviously, but if I'm honest, my mind immediately jumped to "someone in the GOP Presidential race is going to point to this incident as an example of how gun control laws don't prevent mass shootings."

You ever think that might actually be true or is that belief so politically enshrined that it is cannot be questioned?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

You ever think that might actually be true or is that belief so politically enshrined that it is cannot be questioned?

Taken literally, the statement is true. So long as guns exist, there will be mass shootings.

But what you are really arguing about is the rhetorical stance. The one that argues "can't stop them, so don't bother trying". But between you and me, I'd rather live in a society where the distance between mass shootings is typically measured in months and years rather than hours and days.

So the real argument you are making is objectively false. We have the statistics on shootings and mass shootings in various jurisdictions that demonstrate the American/GOP argument is fatally flawed.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

You ever think that might actually be true or is that belief so politically enshrined that it is cannot be questioned?

I think it's pretty clear that there is a correlative relationship between gun control frameworks and the prevalence of gun deaths. I think people who disagree with this are ideologues who care more about their side of the debate winning than for facts. Personally, I'm not a gun guy, but I also don't particularly care about gun rights, except to the extent that I'm anti-death... and I'm pretty sure we're all supposed to be on that team.

Now, in the USA, it's a bit more complicated because there already exists a situation where there are 300 million guns in circulation. Hence, banning all guns doesn't make any sense; it's a far more complex problem. But the rhetoric that will inevitably be used by politicians isn't complex or nuanced, it will simply be, "see, it doesn't help".

Having to listen to that sort of predictable stupidity is going to be extremely exasperating.

[Minnie]

Global will have a statement from the RCMP in about 10 minutes.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

I work for the federal gov here in the U.S. had to do a manditory active shooter training. Sadly this is the world we live in folks.

No offence but It's the world you live in, outside of the U.S. we have more sense.

[Violator]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I went to Sahali High school in Kamloops for a few years and they have steel shutters that go over the windows. I knever understood why because it was the only school to have them . It was in one of the nicer neighborhood s to which might explain why tho.

That's because of vandalism ie broken windows graffiti and break-ins

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I went to Sahali High school in Kamloops for a few years and they have steel shutters that go over the windows. I knever understood why because it was the only school to have them . It was in one of the nicer neighborhood s to which might explain why tho.

The steel shutters were an attempt to protect the computers more than anything else, stealing tech gear out of schools used to be a profitable little crime in the 90's and 2000's.
Your school probably had a good PAC that got it lots of techie toys, being rich and all!

[saskflames69]

RCMP is saying 4 have been killed

[Minnie]

Cripes, reporters. RCMP will not be speaking to ages and sex of the victims or the shooter, and the spokesperson said so. What do the reporters keep asking? Ages/sex of the victims/shooter.