UPD: NHL announces Scott WILL captain the Pacific team

[Trojan97]

Originally Posted by dino7c

losers with lots of time on there hands to voted for him again and again get what they get

he was basically voted worst player in the NHL. Yotes found a way to get a real rep

Is this whole situation any different than a CP Jihad? I'd be careful throwing around the word losers on an internet message board with a history of voting en masse for silly things.

The part that I really am not understanding is why the league doesn't just suck it up and let the trolls "win" this mess. Let Scott play, he will be horrible and it won't be nearly as funny as these voters seem to think. Then it will be out of everyone's system and people can go back to voting normally in the years ahead, or the league can use it as an excuse all together to take voting privileges away from the fans.

It would be a joke if he plays. The league would be wise to let their fans wear this one and let them have what they want.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I'm split on this.

I actually had some renewed interest in the ASG this year because of the switch to the 3 on 3 format. I was looking forward to seeing Johnny and cheering for the Pacific. There isn't much hitting in 3 on 3 anyway, so it could end up being a competitive match.

Having Scott on the Pacific was going to kill our chances and worse, if he ends up sharing a lot of time with Johnny, we probably wouldn't get to see a lot of his 3 on 3 magic we all love. I was actually pretty ticked about it. I might have found it funny if he was on one of the other teams, but I really didn't like this.

However I do agree that the NHL asking him to step down is pretty scuzzy. I can see the team doing it, especially if it's a player led initiative, maybe they want a guy like Doan to go, but the NHL asking is unfair to Scott, and hypocritical as it's their rules that got him there. So am happy that it happened, but I don't like the way it happened.

Lastly, I'm not sure if I agree that the NHL is crapping on their fans though. Aren't a lot of these campaigns started on Reddit and often voted on by internet trolls who don't even watch a lot of hockey or the all-star game? I would wager a lot of the voting wasn't done by hardcore fans.

Anyway, the whole thing has become a debacle and the NHL needs to change it. Not sure if they need to get rid of fan voting, but they can make restrictions so plugs and AHLers don't get in. Certain amount of games played, or certain amount of points or something like that. It doesn't have to be high, but just enough so we don't get John Scotts.

Haha, I'm sorry but that bolded line is hilarious. Kill our chances for what exactly? Its the All Star Game. Most fans I know don't bother watching unless its -40 and there is nothing else to watch.

The fix for the NHL is fairly obvious to me. Combine it with the outdoor classic and merge the two sideshows to create one big hockey spectacle. Then you have the best players in the league, playing "pond hockey" and doing all their skills competitions in front of a huge audience. Because we all know the ice isn't great and it's a carnival atmosphere then everyone understands it for fun, and the players are going 50% but the whole thing makes more sense.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

[Daradon]

Well, the previous paragraph I stated I was interested in it because of the new format. And although I don't expect it to be, it has the possibility of becoming more competitive than previous all-star games because there isn't much hitting in 3 on 3 anyway. So obviously, I wanna cheer for Johnny for the win. Scott is not going to help that.

I get that most people don't care, I get that it doesn't affect anything, but I was interested. So to me, it would 'kill our chances'. If it ends up sucking I won't watch it next year. But for now, the format change intrigued me enough to care, even a little bit. Which is what the NHL is going for.

Thought that was pretty straight forward.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

Is this whole situation any different than a CP Jihad? I'd be careful throwing around the word losers on an internet message board with a history of voting en masse for silly things.

The part that I really am not understanding is why the league doesn't just suck it up and let the trolls "win" this mess. Let Scott play, he will be horrible and it won't be nearly as funny as these voters seem to think. Then it will be out of everyone's system and people can go back to voting normally in the years ahead, or the league can use it as an excuse all together to take voting privileges away from the fans.

It would be a joke if he plays. The league would be wise to let their fans wear this one and let them have what they want.

We're the cool internet losers. All the other internet losers look up to us.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

why would the NHL and the Coyotes ask him not to go, that's wrong.

The answer to your question is that it makes the nhl look like a tier two league to put it nicely. A joke at the end of sports centre is probably more accurate.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

why would the NHL and the Coyotes ask him not to go, that's wrong.

How is it any more wrong than "fans" exploiting the system to vote in the NHL's worst player?

[GGG]

The league had years to fix this potential problem. Rory Fitzpatrick came close. And someone else each year. Baseball dealt with the Kansas City push. The problems with fan voting have been known for a long time. This result should not have been a surprise to anyone.

So changing the rules after your negative outcome occurs is pretty bush league. You got the media attention from the Rory fitzpatricks and John Scott's driving "real fans" to vote against them. You used this controversy to drive traffic to the site. You claimed you would honour the vote. If they just said after the Rory Fitzpatrick that if the NHL feels that the player is not representirive of the elite skills of the league they reserve the right to overturn the vote then it would be fine. But they wanted the attention.

Then once it happens you change it. To me it's mostly just classless.

[FlamesFanStrandedInEDM]

If you are going to allow a Fan Vote style, you have to stick it out. It's like your parents saying you can wear whatever you want to school, then veto it when you get to the front door ready to leave.

You cannot be like "you the fans decide! Nope, just kidding"

[keenan87]

Watch him get traded back to Arizona right after the all-star game..

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Having been mocked after complaining about Scott being voted in by the trolls, I have to say, I'm finding this very entertaining. I'm wondering if you guys could possibly be anymore dramatic with your righteous indignation over the betrayal of John Scott? Poor guy, I hope he makes it though these tough times. Maybe someone should file a human rights complaint with the UN? By the sounds of it, some of you have probably considered it lol.

The posts defending him as being skilled are particularly hilarious. John Scott is a useless plug who would only look 'skilled' next to 45 year old fat guys in a beer league. And even then, I'm sure he'd be more interested in doling out cheap shots than putting his mad skillz on display. The term 'ogre' is so apt it's not even funny. Half the reason the NHL probably didn't want him to go is because they didn't want the potential of a guy getting injured in an all-star game. Only half-kidding of course but I'm sure it crossed their mind... you know, because Scott is an ogre.

Resolute's bitching and whining in particular is very amusing after the cry baby pics he posted. Keep it rolling guys, this thread has me in stitches.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by MBates

Dear NHL,

While you are busy nullifying unintended consequences of troll vote campaigns, can you please arrange a trade of Rachel Notley and her MLA's for Brad Wall and his and then assign her to a seat on Moose Jaw town council? That'd be super.

Signed,

The Alberta oil and gas industry.

**** no.

Signed,
Citizens of Moose Jaw

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Locke

The only thing missing is Gary pulling his pants down at centre ice, mooning the fans while lighting a cigar with a stack of hundred-dollar bills while they sing the anthems.

Exactly this.

[CroFlames]

No matter what side of the debate you are on, I can't believe there are people who are agreeing with the NHL here.

A player was legitimately voted in. Said player is now being excluded.

You see nothing wrong with that?

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No matter what side of the debate you are on, I can't believe there are people who are agreeing with the NHL here.

A player was legitimately voted in. Said player is now being excluded.

You see nothing wrong with that?

Voted in by a mass troll job making Scott the butt of a giant internet joke. The nhl wants no part of it and Scott should be embarrassed by this . He knows he doesn't deserve to be there and had the chance to bow out and let a more deserving teammate go but instead let it get to where it is today.

[Kswiss]

I am in the crowd of how can you NOT let John Scott go?

The NHL asked the fans to vote in. Regardless of the trolls the NHL knew this would happen with the Fitzpatrick incident.

For every troll fan out there that voted there is probably 10 fans that have support for the system that the NHL created themselves. Its not about the trolls anymore, but now more about the system. If they can manipulate the all star game, Im sure the next years draft will conveniently go to the team they want it to. Its a HUGE loss of integrity for the game for me.

Shame on the NHL, any other business entity that did this to their employees in the "real world" would be chastised immediately.

end rant/

[Kswiss]

Originally Posted by trublmaker

Voted in by a mass troll job making Scott the butt of a giant internet joke. The nhl wants no part of it and Scott should be embarrassed by this . He knows he doesn't deserve to be there and had the chance to bow out and let a more deserving teammate go but instead let it get to where it is today.

I get this point but how is he not deserving? The NHL said for the fans to vote in. The "fans" did vote and they voted for him. The NHL knew this could happen but still went ahead with it. John Scott is as deserving as any other All Star there in my opinion. Why should he give up his spot? He was voted in. Period.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Kswiss

I get this point but how is he not deserving? The NHL said for the fans to vote in. The "fans" did vote and they voted for him. The NHL knew this could happen but still went ahead with it. John Scott is as deserving as any other All Star there in my opinion. Why should he give up his spot? He was voted in. Period.

Fans didn't vote for him specifically, they voted for whoever was the chosen one by the mockery "fans". It could have been some other undeserving slug.

Glad the NHL fixed it.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No matter what side of the debate you are on, I can't believe there are people who are agreeing with the NHL here.

A player was legitimately voted in. Said player is now being excluded.

You see nothing wrong with that?

Is it possible to not care about John Scott's feelings while also not caring about the NHL's alleged role in this? Because that's where I am.The only thing that makes this interesting for me is all the outrage. Like, holy crap, talk about misplaced passion. If this is the kind of thing that gets you riled up, I imagine every day must be an emotional roller-coaster of epic proportions over every little thing. Looking at the gear grinding thread, I guess I already knew that was the case.

I was annoyed at Scott's selection but I got over it in short order. The way some of you are carrying on, you'd think the NHL was caught covering up a murder. Nothing will come of this, the NHLPA won't be filing a grevience and Bettman won't be tried at the Hague. Maybe someone sets up a gofundme for John Scott, but that's about it.

[dino7c]

Fans should have voted for an NHL player, he is no longer one

/thread

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Kswiss

I get this point but how is he not deserving? The NHL said for the fans to vote in. The "fans" did vote and they voted for him. The NHL knew this could happen but still went ahead with it. John Scott is as deserving as any other All Star there in my opinion. Why should he give up his spot? He was voted in. Period.

Scott does not deserve to be there just because he is the butt of an Internet jihad to vote for the worst player out there. Like I said Scott should be more embarrassed by this and let one of his more deserving team mates go