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Old 01-15-2016, 11:20 AM   #21
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Edmonton is one of the worst offensive teams in the NHL, when adjusted for games play they're about the 26th best team offensively.

I think its a good time to get Hiller in for a couple and rest up Ramo for a long road tough road trip.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:21 AM   #22
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I brought up trade because it seems that whenever this kind of thing happens with a player, someone asks if he was traded. I wanted to be that someone...again

100% agree that I think he's still injured and just wanted to see first hand how far along he was then realized he wasn't ready.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:23 AM   #23
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#Flames lines today:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland;
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Raymond-Granlund-Jones;
Bollig-Stajan-Jooris

Looks like Colborne will continue to be scratched.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:24 AM   #24
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Ramo can't continue to play the number of games he has been for the rest of the season. They need Hiller to be a solid option. He finally gets the net and puts in a good performance. I think it's smart to show him that you have confidence in him. They shouldn't need a stellar goaltending performance to beat the Oilers. Strong defensive play from the rest of the team should be enough for a win.
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Hudler: 4,000,000
Hayes: 900,000
3,100,000 difference

NYR Cap Space: 1,801,000
1,299,000 to make up

Dominic Moore: 1,500,000
UFA next year, 10 pts in 41 games

Done?
You'd have to add, if you're Calgary.

Hudler + 2016 2nd
Hayes + Moore
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:25 AM   #26
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If we assume this is a 1A and 1B situation (2014-15), then yes he deserves the start.

But when you consider he could have been in against Florida without equipment and got the win and that Ramo is the number one now the only reason I go back to Hiller is if Ramo needs more rest.

5 game trip and the Flames in a dog fight you can't afford a spotty goaltending performance to cost you a game against the league's 28th best team. Lose that one and suddenly you need to win 3 of 4 with the last stop in Dallas and the Hurricanes playing well.
I agree with everything,

I don't believe Hartley is running the 1A/1B duo this year but Hiller needs starts and out of the next 5. I feel most comfortable with Hiller in net against the Oilers. Especially with the back to back coming up next weekend, Hiller may need to play one of those. Going in Cold/Unmotivated would be almost a guaranteed loss.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:29 AM   #27
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You'd have to add, if you're Calgary.

Hudler + 2016 2nd
Hayes + Moore
Yeah Moore actually has some value and wouldn't just be a cap dump.

Would rather not move a second.

Hudler ($2million retained-really only $1million since its for half the year)

for Hayes.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:48 AM   #28
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#Flames lines today:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland;
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik;
Raymond-Granlund-Jones;
Bollig-Stajan-Jooris

Looks like Colborne will continue to be scratched.
I will continue to appreciate that scratch.
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I'd rather have Granlund in that Colborne.

Jooris too.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:52 AM   #30
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Hudler's been hurt since the beginning of the year I think. Just not the same, something has to be off.
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:54 AM   #31
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Hudler: 4,000,000
Hayes: 900,000
3,100,000 difference
Actually, Hudler is closer to 2,000,000 and Hayes closer to 450,000 at this point in the season. If you traded them right now, both teams see a 2,450,000 cap hit on the season.

Still not a trade I like.

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Old 01-15-2016, 11:54 AM   #32
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Hudler seemed fine in the last game, no??

Russell often has 'maintenance days' but the fact that he's one of our rumoured trading chips always has me intrigued when he's missing.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:00 PM   #33
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Rangers fans are REALLY pissed with Hayes:

http://elitesportsny.com/2016/01/15/...o-kevin-hayes/

I think it's safe to consider this trade a done-deal
No thanks to Joe Colborne 2.0. Hayes really impressed in his first season but he has a hard time motivating himself.

Unless Playing with Gaudreau could motivate him every game?
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:01 PM   #34
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#Flames Jiri Hudler tweaked his groin again...he's out. Michael Frolik is in, Jonas Hiller will start vs. #Oilers tomorrow. #EDMvsCGY
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:03 PM   #35
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Hudler need to take two or three weeks off.
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I expect it's a trade. Both Russel and Hudler.

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Old 01-15-2016, 12:10 PM   #37
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:10 PM   #38
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Calgary can't afford for Hudler to take 3 weeks off.

Gah, these are the scenarios you want to avoid as GM. This is the same thing as Cammalleri.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HOT ASSET THAT ISN'T IN YOUR FUTURE PLANS, YOU TRADE THAT HOT ASSET WHILE THEY ARE HOT!

....I'll show myself out.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:19 PM   #39
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I thought Hudler played well last game. Didn't appear injured to me.

Hopefully he's got the flu (in a good way)
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I thought Hudler played well last game. Didn't appear injured to me.

Hopefully he's got the flu (in a good way)
As someone who has suffered a groin injury I can say sometimes it doesn't hurt when you're all warmed up and sweating but when you're not moving or in bed is when you really feel it. It is a very tricky injury and it can feel good one day and then the next it'll hurt again.
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