Jiri Hudler injury - Blessing in disgiuse?

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by druetetective

Here are some RW that will be UFA's this summer:
Shane Doan
Radim Vrbata
Loui Eriksson
Jiri Hudler RW
David Jones
Troy Brouwer
Alex Tanguay
Jaromir Jagr
Kyle Okposo
Jason Chimera
Chris Neil
Steve Downie
Chris Stewart
Paul Byron*
Lee Stempniek

Yes Please

[dying4acup]

The Flames were in a submissive spot(assuming this has been ongoing).

Ask him to play through injury, you diminish his value.

Make him sit and recover, diminish his value while gaining some production.

Force him either way is selfish for personal gain. It's Hudler's call on how to proceed.

If the Flames let him make his own call, they might be on their way to re-sign him to a same AAV contract for 2-3yrs. They could also trade him.

[Moneyhands23]

Any time line on his return?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Any time line on his return?

Hartley said Hudler would be off the ice for at least a week on Wednesday.

[spennywalks]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

It's likely a little bit of everything. I have a friend who's close with one of the current Flames brothers and allegedly his first "flu" of the season was more so self inflicted and judging by his slow integration back to the top line after I have no reason to doubt what he told me. There's more to it that leads me to believe he's checked out somewhat, but I'm not going to be the "friend of a friend" rumour guy.

I have heard a similar story. Have a friend who was interning in the office. I have a strong feeling that it is true and management will have no interest in bringing hudler back, i fully expect his name to be heard in trade talks leading up to the deadline.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by spennywalks

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This is a real crap comment, as was the one you quoted. You're basically spreading rumours and being nothing more than a cheap gossip monger.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Split98

If Hudler and the Flames know he's playing hurt I would have to think he's not going to take a discount due to this years production. They'd be looking at last years and dismissing this year as 'we both know why'.

Injury always reduces price unfortunately. Although he's not a UFA until the summer, his potential price if he were to go on the market will drive internal negotiations, and there will clearly be less interest for him after this season as opposed to if he had repeated last season.

Nature of the injury (chronic vs one-off) also matters. Expected recovery path of a broken rib is very different than a pulled groin.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by the2bears

This is a real crap comment, as was the one you quoted. You're basically spreading rumours and being nothing more than a cheap gossip monger.

Bit of an over-reaction.

[flamesfever]

I would really like to have him back, as he fits in so well with Johnny and Monahan. However, knowing that management is probably "old school" and putting the emphasis on size, he, along with Russell, are probably going to be dealt.

I would prefer to build a team like Chicago and Montreal that are built on speed and skill, rather than size like Anaheim, Winnipeg, and LA.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

It's likely a little bit of everything. I have a friend who's close with one of the current Flames brothers and allegedly his first "flu" of the season was more so self inflicted and judging by his slow integration back to the top line after I have no reason to doubt what he told me. There's more to it that leads me to believe he's checked out somewhat, but I'm not going to be the "friend of a friend" rumour guy.

Except that, that's EXACTLY what you are being, but with a Vaguebook flavour post.

Ugh.

I wish I was "This post is stupid" so I could thank your post with that account.

[EVERLAST]

really hope he gets over this groin injury and stays healthy for the remainder of the season .

PLayers play through stuff and I cannot imagine how much a proud player like Jiri has to suffer not being able to contribute.

To those writing him off I think you need to look around the league and see it isnt just Hudler having issues with health . Hell it took a while for Gio and hes back in form.

Look at Getslaugh in Anaheim

I am a little suprised Bob Let him play through this as long as he did however instead of dressing a healthier body. Mind you a veteran saying hes good to go and someone like Raymond sitting in the pressbox not being able to crack the lineup because hes just a sorry excuse for a hockey player what other options do you have but to let a guy who isnt 100% play.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I would really like to have him back, as he fits in so well with Johnny and Monahan. However, knowing that management is probably "old school" and putting the emphasis on size, he, along with Russell, are probably going to be dealt.

I would prefer to build a team like Chicago and Montreal that are built on speed and skill, rather than size like Anaheim, Winnipeg, and LA.

Isn't signing a 32 year-old UFA also 'old school'? (ignoring the silliness of the comment)

If you prefer the Flames build a faster team, Hudler is slow, and getting slower.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If you prefer the Flames build a faster team, Hudler is slow, and getting slower.

He may be slower and his game affected because of his injury. However, I believe any issues regarding speed are more than compensated by his skill and IQ. In my mind, he's a keeper, providing you can sign him at a reasonable rate, which may well happen as the Op has suggested.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

Except that, that's EXACTLY what you are being, but with a Vaguebook flavour post.

Ugh.

I wish I was "This post is stupid" so I could thank your post with that account.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what happened. Isn't much of a rumour. The rest of it would be crossing into that territory which is why I left it out. You gotta remember these guys are human beings too not some mythical creatures that we glorify them to be on a fan board. They go through their own personal issues and are known to engage in substances and alcohol just like anyone else. By no means am I saying he's a substance abuser or even a user. Just that it seems like you are so quick to disregard it as if he would never do such a thing as drink the night before a game. I'm assuming you must know him personally than?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Bit of an over-reaction.

No, don't think it was.

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by the2bears

No, don't think it was.

It's a fan forum free for speculation. In a thread where the title implys that we should all be happy a guy is injured, someone posting what they heard from someone they know socializes with the team is considered the "crap"?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what happened. Isn't much of a rumour. The rest of it would be crossing into that territory which is why I left it out. You gotta remember these guys are human beings too not some mythical creatures that we glorify them to be on a fan board. They go through their own personal issues and are known to engage in substances and alcohol just like anyone else. By no means am I saying he's a substance abuser or even a user. Just that it seems like you are so quick to disregard it as if he would never do such a thing as drink the night before a game. I'm assuming you must know him personally than?

Haha, Lanny'sDaMan surely understands all that, his point was that CP isn't the place for those types of rumors, and whether you think you did or not, you quite literally posted a rumor of that nature.

To say "Here's something I heard from a reliable source, but I know CP isn't the place for it so I won't expand on it" is still posting a rumor.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

It's a fan forum free for speculation.

No it isn't. It's a private message board that has been attacked legally in the past for things members have posted, that's why they explicitly state that you can't do what you just did.

There's no room for personal, off ice rumors on CP, never has been.

EDIT: Just noticed you've been here since 2002? Wow, I was giving a free pass thinking you were new, but certainly you have to have noticed warnings/explanations on spreading personal rumors about players at least once in your time here?

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by jayswin

No it isn't. It's a private message board that has been attacked legally in the past for things members have posted, that's why they explicitly state that you can't do what you just did.

There's no room for personal, off ice rumors on CP, never has been.

EDIT: Just noticed you've been here since 2002? Wow, I was giving a free pass thinking you were new, but certainly you have to have noticed warnings/explanations on spreading personal rumors about players at least once in your time here?

Fair enough I'll delete it. That's quite tame on the side of things though. I've thought to post other things before but I didn't want to be in a position to have to "out" this person. Or possible players who scan the forum reading and being upset with said friend. I will say this though. We cheer for a team composed of human beings. We have great guys who are loyal husbands and everything you'd want to have as a "role model" and we got guys who party hard and bang hookers just like I'm sure many in here would if they were making millions. And sometimes those aren't the guys you think they are (this is a general statement not saying Hudler is any of them)

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

It's a fan forum free for speculation. In a thread where the title implys that we should all be happy a guy is injured, someone posting what they heard from someone they know socializes with the team is considered the "crap"?

Yes, I would consider it exactly that. Not because it's hearsay, but because it's also speculation on more serious issues.