University questions

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by MonsieurFish

Alright so im in grade 12 and have a few quesitons about getting into university next year. so i want to get into engineering at u of c. i think that the requirements are an average of around 80? now what exactly does this "average" have to consist of. i belive i read somewhere you need to have math 30, chem 30, physics 30, ELA 30, math 31. so im doing pretty decent in those, but what other marks do i have to hand in that will matter for me getting into university? my main concern is social cause im pretty good at math, but absolutlely blow at social. will this affect anytthing or do i not have to give them that mark?

also, how many marks do i hand in? can i only hand in 30 level marks or could i hand in couses like gym 20 or computer science 20? and does anyone know the actual requirements for engineering at u of c? thanks

Being "pretty good" at math really isn't going to cut it. I took comp sci my first year at Unversity with all the math requirements that came with it and got my ass handed to me. I was "pretty good" at math, but quickly saw that pretty good wasn't nearly good enough, Math 211 handed me my first and only F.

If you are thinking "yeah, I am pretty interested, this sounds cool", you should probably reconsider what you are applying for. ENG is a course you have to really want to take, or you might find yourself in a tough spot next year.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

What a bad teacher, why would they tell you to get 90?

You should always go for 100%

If it asks for 90, get 100.

70, get 80. 60, get 70.

Always ten percent higher.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

Oh yeah, that and the formula sheet you get is crap if I remember correctly.

The formula sheets you get in high school classes are crap as well.

[Fobby]

All i remember from 259 is everyone in the exam was doing the right hand rule....

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by Fobby

All i remember from 259 is everyone in the exam was doing the right hand rule....

...while the kids writing the business exam on the other half of the gym are looking at the engineering kids like they're ######s.

its really not as bad as a lot of people here are making it out to be. some of the stuff can be a bit tricky to get your head around at first but its all doable. and even if something isn't, you'll quickly learn that 'the curve' is your best friend in university (aside from thursday nights at the den)

[SeeGeeWhy]

It really isn't all bad.

My advice:

1. Talk to your prof early. This makes it easier to approach them for help later on and in some cases you can get the inside track as to what material is going to be the focus on the tests.

2. Be prepared to work.

3. Have fun or else you're ****ed.

[Fobby]

That's the main thing.. you have to know when to have fun.

and ahem... get to know your fellow students. Sometimes they know something that you don't... and they can always help... and if you are going to stay there til 5 in the morning, then it's always to know the ppl you are there with.

And curve is your friend.. as long as you are not padding it.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

Ah a Carleton Student? How are you liking it so far?

Yes a Carleton Student and How am I liking it so far?? Not bad... residences are pretty clean... parties are expected... But I find the classes too much of a high school review that I can easily fall asleep in it...

Oh and Fish... learn the Engineering Hymn before going in... u'll sound smarter than every other first year...

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Fobby

All i remember from 259 is everyone in the exam was doing the right hand rule....

LOL I remember that from my 1st year physics courses too, and looking up and seeing everyone else doing it as well. Except the war amps.
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[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by fotze

Watch out, that's where I got fooked in first year. The Chem course felt like Chem 30, the physics course started out reviewing light and magnetism and stuff you took in high school, but then it just creeps up and kills you. I remember this clearly and that was 10 years ago, that's how bad it was.

I remember how people said Math 31 would be invaluable in Math 251 and go a long way to helping you out. I swear the entire syllabus for Math 31 was done in 3 lectures..... the rest of 251 was like being dragged for 3 miles after being hit by the bus.

253 was worse - no bus, no dragging, just a laser to the balls.

I cried at that point.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

I remember how people said Math 31 would be invaluable in Math 251 and go a long way to helping you out. I swear the entire syllabus for Math 31 was done in 3 lectures..... the rest of 251 was like being dragged for 3 miles after being hit by the bus.

253 was worse - no bus, no dragging, just a laser to the balls.

I cried at that point.

I didn't do math 31 so I had to take 249 first. Math 249 was pretty easy. Math 253 was a little tricky but still ok. Math 331 (multivariate calculus) absolutely destroyed me. . . damn you Dr. Chang, calculus is indeed "hella hard". Oh ya, I took Math 221 (linear algebra) my first semester at university with Dr. Nicholson (the guy that wrote the textbook). I knew I was ****ed when he told us that A*B does not equal B*A. I do not miss undergrad one bit. . .although grad school is like a constant kick in the ass.

[Fobby]

Engineering student takes AMAT 217/219. AMAT 217 is really the combination of Math 251 and 253. weeeee.... I also remember that my prof did the entire physics 30 course in 15 mins.

Oh yea.. Math 221 was fun as well.

[Eastern Girl]

Originally Posted by STeeLy

Yes a Carleton Student and How am I liking it so far?? Not bad... residences are pretty clean... parties are expected... But I find the classes too much of a high school review that I can easily fall asleep in it...

That's how I felt my first year there. But it will get more difficult either towards the midway point of the semester, or second year. (Although I was in a different program than you are in so maybe it won't.) I personally felt there was a bigger leap going from 1st to 2nd year in university, than there was going from high school to university.

[Fobby]

haha LP Bos.. he's always high on something.. haha

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I didn't do math 31 so I had to take 249 first. Math 249 was pretty easy. Math 253 was a little tricky but still ok. Math 331 (multivariate calculus) absolutely destroyed me. . . damn you Dr. Chang, calculus is indeed "hella hard".

Nerd.

I blame Kirkpatrick at SWC for never teaching me the fundamentals I needed to succeed in Trig/Calculus.

I still think my "I'm never going to need this mother@#$@# calculus!!!" arguments are still quite legit though. But I could have said that about French 30 too.

[calf]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

I remember how people said Math 31 would be invaluable in Math 251 and go a long way to helping you out. I swear the entire syllabus for Math 31 was done in 3 lectures..... the rest of 251 was like being dragged for 3 miles after being hit by the bus.

253 was worse - no bus, no dragging, just a laser to the balls.

I cried at that point.

you had to do 2 math courses? suckah.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by calf

you had to do 2 math courses? suckah.

I ended up a science refugee. Like so many others.

[calf]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

I ended up a science refugee. Like so many others.

haha - I skipped the middleman and went straight to business (well, pre-business at the time)...thankfully I didn't have to deal with direct entry (and my mediocre marks) out of high school.

MrFish - my advice, whatever you do, don't just put effort into the classes that will get you in. They're important, but put a good effort into the classes you tend to struggle in - that way, you'll be better rounded & better able to take on new challenges...it'll suck, but you'll be better off.

Good luck!

[V]

Originally Posted by MonsieurFish

so i want to get into engineering at u of c.

Why not take Engineering at a real Engineering school? It's just up the road. Or you could head to Ontario. But why U of C?? Do they even have full accreditation??

[V]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Keep in mind it's very competitive. I believe the average required for acceptance has increased each year in the past 3 years. Next year won't be any different. I'm guessing high 80's, even approaching 90.

I've seen a history of past averages needed for acceptance on their website, but I'm having trouble finding it right now. I'll post it if I find it.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Engineering school used to be cool. Now it's just a bunch of loser bookworms.

I got into Engineering with an average of about 72. I had to start at Grant MacEwen in Edmonton for my first year, but I got in.

I then proceeded to learn absolutely nothing about the consulting industry. The only thing I learned at the U that's of any help for my current job is P=VI. Ridiculous. The only course on the Electrical Code was cancelled.

Engineering at University is strictly for showing you can jump through hoops. It does not teach you what you need to know to make a living.

End rant.