2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[hockey.modern]

Could Ducks’ goalie Andersen be on the move? Arizona or Calgary willing to trade for him?
http://www.tsn.ca/could-ducks-goalie...-move-1.419690

Arizona and Calgary need the most help. The Flames have the NHL’s worst team save percentage (.893). Their goaltending has stabilized of late, with Karri Ramo rebounding, but it is still a point of concern. Arizona’s Mike Smith didn’t play well to start the season. Now he’s out with a long-term injury, so the Coyotes have been relying on Louis Domingue to keep them in the Pacific race.

The issue with both teams is the Ducks would be aiding a division rival and chief competitor for the playoffs. Plus, the Flames seem lukewarm on Andersen at the moment.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Andersen is so overrated, I hope we stay away unless Anaheim just wants a bunch of junk.

[Split98]

I'd really rather ride Ramo

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[dammage79]

Would love the Flames to get Andersen.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Andersen is so overrated, I hope we stay away unless Anaheim just wants a bunch of junk.

What makes you say this?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Split98

I'd really rather ride Ramo

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If this iteration of Ramo goes down, or goes back super bad Ramo, do you want Super rusty and likely disinterested Hiller playing the bulk of games? At least with Andersen you get to look at a 26 year old netminder who could be a fit for a few years.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by heep223

What makes you say this?

He has pretty average stats over his career and whenever I watch him he seems to rely on his size and positioning too much. I'd rather have a more athletic goalie than one that just hopes the shots hit him. Watching him in the playoffs I couldn't help but think he was the weak link on their team. Looks shaky and tentative as often as he looks in composed and in control. He just doesn't inspire any confidence in me.

Besides, is he really is he a top 10 goalie? If he's not, I'm not interested in trading for him. There are plenty of average goalies around, I don't think we should be trading assets for one.

IMO, all these goalies are better

Lundqvist
Quick
Holtby
Luongo
Schnieder
Rask
Bishop
Bobrovsky
Fleury
Varlamov
Allen
Dubnyk
Mrazek
Crawford
Halak
Gibson

To me, he's barely a top 15 goalie... or an average starter. Why waste our time with a half measure unless the cost is cheap? He turns 27 next season, he is what he is, so it's not like we'd be trading for untapped potential here. Unless we can get him cheap, I'm just not on board. He would likely cost at least a 1st, so it's just not a direction I think we should go in given the fact we still are still rebuilding. I'd rather go after an older guy (Ward, Elliot, Niemi) or stick with Ramo than trade a premium for a guy that represents a slight upgrade at best. Hopefully Gillies and/or McDonald will develop as expected and we can get a short term stop gap in the meantime.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by dammage79

If this iteration of Ramo goes down, or goes back super bad Ramo, do you want Super rusty and likely disinterested Hiller playing the bulk of games? At least with Andersen you get to look at a 26 year old netminder who could be a fit for a few years.

Ramo is only 29. It's not as though he's old. And some would argue he's just coming into his best years..

[Strange Brew]

As well as Ramo has played recently, it's hard to argue he is any better than an average NHL goalie based on his body of work. Maybe a slightly below average starter. Even if he finishes the year strong and you bring him back, you need another option IMO.

I like Andersen, but Ramo and Andersen may end up being too expensive.

[dissentowner]

Ramo>Andersen Why part with an asset?

[dammage79]

Andersen>Hiller. Why are a few of you being so block headed about this?

It's not about replacing Ramo right now. It's insuring there's a competent replacement if Ramo gets hurt of reverts back to super poo Ramo.

I've veiled nothing in my comtempt for Ramo but he is doing well right now and has secured his seat for the rest of the season. But Hiller is stone cold, won't be back next year, Ortio is a giant question mark for next year too.

You're spending an asset securing a little insurance for the rest of the year and perhaps create a competition for next year if the Flames should choose to re-sign Ramo.

Some of you are making Andersen out to be garbage. He's not and is equally a victim of a goalie carousel as many of you would use to defend Ramo. 3 years younger and is a better goalie by any metric than anything the flames have at the NHL level right now.

It's rather silly to hedge bets on Ramo and not try to make the team better in both the short and long term.

I was intrigued at the idea of landing a UFA goalie too, but Ward isn't doing much, Niemi isn't going anywhere, and I'm not sure the Cam Talbots of the world are going to make things better.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

To me, he's barely a top 15 goalie... or an average starter. Why waste our time with a half measure unless the cost is cheap?

I would love for us to acquire the 15th best goalie right now. Despite the recent turn around we have had the worst tending in the league. Ramo has been great lately but he hasn't exactly shown long term consistency.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I would love for us to acquire the 15th best goalie right now. Despite the recent turn around we have had the worst tending in the league. Ramo has been great lately but he hasn't exactly shown long term consistency.

Are you ready to give up a 1st+ for a marginal upgrade? What are we talking? 0.918 sv% vs 0.910 sv%? Is it really worth it?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Are you ready to give up a 1st+ for a marginal upgrade? What are we talking? 0.918 sv% vs 0.910 sv%? Is it really worth it?

And your problem is you somehow convinced yourself it is a guarantee that it's going to take 1st+ . I'm willing to wager a PB&J sandwich the cost is way less if Andersen is traded.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Are you ready to give up a 1st+ for a marginal upgrade?

Who said that?
No way Andersen fetches that, more likely a 2nd.

[JJ1532]

Andersson is an RFA at the end of the season. If the Ducks want to trade him, isn't it best just to ride it out and see if he hits free agency? I know, I know, we need backup help for Ramo. But if he can figure it out, so can Hiller, now that the defence isn't playing terribly infront of him, same with Ortio too.

Lets not forget that Hiller was part of a goalie tandem last season in which he earned more starts and posted better numbers than Ramo. I know he is almost certainly not coming back next year, but I'd still turn to him if Ramo goes cold or gets injured. There is still an average NHL goaltender in there imo. I'd rather just ride those 2 to be honest.

Not sure how Andersson is better than Hiller, the numbers don't support that. Yeah, so he beat our Hiller during the 13-14 season, but he still only played 28 games. Last season when he was the main starter, his numbers were very similar to Hiller's and this season he's hardly done much better. If he was, I doubt there would be rumours of him being traded.

I'm not surprised the management don't want to trade for him, neither do I at this stage. Stand pat, ride Ramo and Hiller. See what things look like in the summer and re-evaluate from there.

[dammage79]

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions 2m2 minutes ago Calgary, Alberta
Conspiracy theorists ..2 members of #Rangers and 2 members of #Maple Leafs in the scouting media at Flames vs Coyotes tonight

For those that want Hayes. And Maybe Bernier?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Who said that?
No way Andersen fetches that, more likely a 2nd.

To a division rival? I doubt it considering what Lehner and Jones went for.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions 2m2 minutes ago Calgary, Alberta
Conspiracy theorists ..2 members of #Rangers and 2 members of #Maple Leafs in the scouting media at Flames vs Coyotes tonight

For those that want Hayes. And Maybe Bernier?

Quite interesting as the only time the Flames or Coyotes will face the Rangers again this season is in the Stanley Cup Finals. Then again Rangers and Coyotes have a pretty long trade history.

Flames do have a game against the Leafs in about a month. Pretty normal for teams to scout that far ahead.

[sureLoss]

Hmm the Hunters watching for the Leafs