[Trade] Flyers trade Lecavalier and Luke Schenn (both 50% retained) to Kings for Weal and 3rd

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I guess when you look at the list of potential d-men rentals, Schenn isn't bad. Most of the decent ones are on playoff teams.

http://www.generalfanager.com/freeag...team=all&UFA=1

I understand Schenn to an extent but taking Vinny is just a favor to Hextall as far as I'm concerned. His negative value should've made the deal something like this:

Schenn+Lecavalier for 7th

Why not just trade for Schenn?

[sureLoss]

Helene Elliott @helenenothelen
Lombardi: 'we see a lot of Matt Greene in Luke'

Helene Elliott @helenenothelen
Lombardi also said Greene out for the year.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I understand Schenn to an extent but taking Vinny is just a favor to Hextall as far as I'm concerned. His negative value should've made the deal something like this:

Schenn+Lecavalier for 7th

Why not just trade for Schenn?

Cause Hextall recognized LA really wanted Schenn bad and forced them to take Lecavalier. That is good GMing there.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Does he want to play in the minors for that money? Cause that could be a likely place for him if he didn't want to retire. Not all millionaires want to ride buses in the minors for a few more million.

I think he has an NMC

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Depth is only good when it's good players.

Exactly... the way I see it the Kings just traded a 3rd + Weal + Cap Space for the rest of the year in exchange for guys I wouldn't put out on the ice. That Philly managed to get (rather then have to give) a miracle to offload even half those contracts is a miracle.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's the thing - VL isn't depth, he is simply opportunity cost on the little bit of cap space that they had to work with

Remember they don't have much real "currency" to give up for any trade deadline deals anyways. They traded away their 2016 1st for Sekera, 2015 1st for Lucic, and their prospect pool is bled dry from other trades (Roland McKeown, Hudson Fasching, and Colin Miller).

And Schenn is the depth, Vinny is just a throw-in.

I do think Philly won the trade, though.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Cause Hextall recognized LA really wanted Schenn bad and forced them to take Lecavalier. That is good GMing there.

Well it's fair to say Philly won this. Actually I've been pretty impressed with Hextall since he got the gig. He's doing a great job cleaning up after Holmgren destroyed the team. The only thing I didn't like was the Voracek deal but it was probably either that or he goes to UFA.

[Tinordi]

Is there a player with such a divergent perceived value between NHL executives and fans than Luke Schenn?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Is there a player with such a divergent perceived value between NHL executives and fans than Luke Schenn?

Exactly. Because he does have the tools.

And if LA can turn him into a useful defenseman, then they have done well.

If not...

[trumpethead]

It is stunning to think that Lecavalier's old contract (11 years, $85 million and bought out by the Lightning in the summer of 2013) would have paid him $10 million this year!!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I don't know that I can say who won this deal until we see what Schenn and Lecavalier look like as part of the Kings machine... playing on that team can absolutely buttress some major flaws and make otherwise useless players into contributors.

[Benched]

according to capfriendly:

LA is over the line by 1.8mill. Philly now has some room to do things at 4.1mill.

I BELIEVE if I'm not mistaken you are allowed to go over the cap X dollars. BUT you take a cap hit penalty next season for doing so.

[ComixZone]

LA is 600K under the cap when you take into count the LTIR.

As per hockeyscap.com

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Benched

according to capfriendly:

LA is over the line by 1.8mill. Philly now has some room to do things at 4.1mill.

I BELIEVE if I'm not mistaken you are allowed to go over the cap X dollars. BUT you take a cap hit penalty next season for doing so.

They are over because of LTIR. It won't go onto next year.

The only cap hit allowed to roll over to next season is bonus overages.

The NHL will not approve any trade if it results in a team exceeding the salary cap (excluding LTIR and bonus cushion)

[Benched]

ah. yeah capfriendly has Greene on LTIR but his salary still goes against the cap on their site....FAIL!

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I guess when you look at the list of potential d-men rentals, Schenn isn't bad. Most of the decent ones are on playoff teams.

http://www.generalfanager.com/freeag...team=all&UFA=1

They could have made a trade for Grant Clitsome...sorry.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Helene Elliott @helenenothelen
Lombardi: 'we see a lot of Matt Greene in Luke'

Yeah well Leafs and Flyers fans will tell you the force isn't strong with this Luke.

[cannon7]

Wonder if Treliving was in talks with LA about Smid.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Wonder if Treliving was in talks with LA about Smid.

The extra year on his contract would likely made it a non-starter

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Wonder if Treliving was in talks with LA about Smid.

I doubt it, that extra year is a deal breaker. I could see him traded sometime in the summer or during next season though.