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Old 01-03-2016, 07:55 PM   #2541
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You're talking about Trump here, right?
No, I'm talking about Obama.

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As a constitutional law professor Obama would know how executive orders are used and what constraints they can be used to address. The use of executive orders is hardly something new. Maybe look into these things instead of taking the framing of one party as gospel.
Who's doing that?

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History of Executive Orders

Obama has used executive orders less than any president since Grover Cleveland, 20 presidents ago. Don't let things like facts get in the way though.
Where did I say he's used it more, or less, than other presidents? That isn't the issue here.
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Lol, yeah, for sure. Speaking of, I wonder if Trump can even comprehend things like Executive orders and constitutional law.
Doubt it. What does Trump have to do with this though?
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Doubt it. What does Trump have to do with this though?
Uh, this.

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He should just stick to making a fool of himself on reality tv
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Uh, this.
Allah almighty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-tv-in-alaska/
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How many seasons was he on that?
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Good lord! The president does a guest shot on Bear Grylls and he's now a reality show star? Compared to Donald Trump and his decade of being a reality clown show ring master? Wow.

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Great take on the Oregon stand off.
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Who said ANYTHING about Trump, New Era?
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Any mention of "politician acting like an idiot on reality TV" immediately evokes Trump. He did it for well over a decade. How can you fail to see that?
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Any mention of "politician acting like an idiot on reality TV" immediately evokes Trump. He did it for well over a decade. How can you fail to see that?
Did you read the post I made where I said that, and the quote it contained?

Who the hell else would I be referencing?
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I thought for sure he was talking about Trump. Confusing.
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"OBAMA set to use executive orders for more gun control. This should be good."

"He should just stick to making a fool of himself on reality tv."

Guess I should have provided a link to his appearance on Bear Grylls show since using "he" in direct reference to Obama is too hard to follow.
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Oh, haha, I get it. Now that's humor nobama1 would appreciate. Was way over my head.
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Oh, haha, I get it. Now that's humor nobama1 would appreciate. Was way over my head.
As is most things.
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"OBAMA set to use executive orders for more gun control. This should be good."

"He should just stick to making a fool of himself on reality tv."

Guess I should have provided a link to his appearance on Bear Grylls show since using "he" in direct reference to Obama is too hard to follow.
I don't think too many people knew that Obama was even on that show. I know I forgot. The very first thing anyone thinks about when mentioning reality TV and American politics is Trump. I just thought you had missed a part of your post or something. Not a big deal.
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OBAMA set to use executive orders for more gun control. This should be good.
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That's it? I was expecting something radical, not something that's a no-brainer. If I was Obama I'd be laying down the hammer more than that. Although I guess it's the U.S. and they're a lost cause when it comes to guns, so really nothing will change.
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Perhaps 2stonedbirds could explain how Obama's proposed course of action is unconstitutional?
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Perhaps 2stonedbirds could explain how Obama's proposed course of action is unconstitutional?
Well all the provisions have not been made public yet, but the big one for me, and one Obama has brought up in the past is expanding the no fly list to a no gun list.

That would be number one.

The bulk of his executive action will be aimed at stopping private transfers without background checks I believe however.

I expect most of his proposals to be challenged in court after the fact either way.

Greg Abbott has already told Obama to FO, so we will see what happens.
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Well all the provisions have not been made public yet, but the big one for me, and one Obama has brought up in the past is expanding the no fly list to a no gun list.

That would be number one.

The bulk of his executive action will be aimed at stopping private transfers without background checks I believe however.

I expect most of his proposals to be challenged in court after the fact either way.

Greg Abbott has already told Obama to FO, so we will see what happens.
But how is any of that unconstitutional? I don't know a lot about US constitutional law, but I don't understand what you are alleging? Does Obama not have the authority to make this type of executive order? Is it ultra vires? Does it infringe second amendment rights? If so, how?
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