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Old 12-30-2015, 06:38 PM   #41
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What is absolutely awesome is that Jarome Iginla is more than likely going to eclipse 600 goals and 1300 points. Legitimately.
Technically, he has 636 goals and 1314 points in the NHL if you include his playoff career.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:41 PM   #42
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Lol I love Johnny!! I personally just can't call him a "Superstar" yet. I'm a life long Flames fan and I can be as much of a "Homer" as the next guy but imo "Superstar" in Hockey is a term earned over several stand out seasons, which includes winning multiple league awards etc like I stated in that other thread. That's just my opinion!
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It's actually too bad he's not playing at the Dome. I think it'd be neat to see him score his 600th here and see the reaction from the crowd, which I'm sure would be a warm one. And I'd be ok with Beasely giving the ol' "Jaaroommee Iginla!" to announce it.

I might be in the minority here but I wouldn't be cool with the above because Iginla no longer plays for Calgary. If his 600th goal costs us the game, it can be the difference between making the playoffs or not and that is way more relevant to me than celebrating a milestone for an opposing team's player. Besides, how do you think the current roster would feel if we start cheering for Iginla goals. He moved on, so I don't mind naming him a star in the game at the end for a cheer (if the game was being played in Calgary) but no way will I be jumping for joy if Iginla scores a critical goal. The team comes before the player for me.

With that said, it is a huge milestone and he has had a very successful career! Goodluck to him getting #600.
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It's too bad Iggy and Gaudreau came in two different Flames eras. Imagine if they were together? Iggy would likely surpass 700 goals easily. It'd be like Gretzky and Kurri duo, Flames version. Go Iggy!
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When Iggy gets the 600th, It will probably be the last time EVER in the NHL that a 700 goal scorer and a 600 goal scorer will be playing at the same time.
Not saying it will happen, but the rumor has always been Iginla will play until ~43. That would give him 4.5 seasons to work with. I don't think 22 goals / season is completely unrealistic. I wouldn't bet on it, but I also wouldn't completely rule it out yet.

And barring any career ending injury or defection Ovi should be at 600 within 4 seasons.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:49 PM   #46
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It's too bad Iggy and Gaudreau came in two different Flames eras. Imagine if they were together? Iggy would likely surpass 700 goals easily. It'd be like Gretzky and Kurri duo, Flames version. Go Iggy!

It's not too late! Think how many times Johnny sets up wideman with chances as the late guy stepping into the play... Now imagine that being Iggy. Same thing in the powerplay.

Oh... And you know the whole problem the flames have with other teams taking cheap shots at Johnny? Iginla would be on his line to help respond to that.


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I might be in the minority here but I wouldn't be cool with the above because Iginla no longer plays for Calgary. If his 600th goal costs us the game, it can be the difference between making the playoffs or not and that is way more relevant to me than celebrating a milestone for an opposing team's player. Besides, how do you think the current roster would feel if we start cheering for Iginla goals. He moved on, so I don't mind naming him a star in the game at the end for a cheer (if the game was being played in Calgary) but no way will I be jumping for joy if Iginla scores a critical goal. The team comes before the player for me.

With that said, it is a huge milestone and he has had a very successful career! Goodluck to him getting #600.
I honestly don't think the current roster would have a problem with it. They fully understand that Iggy is an icon here in Calgary, so if some fans want to show some appreciation, I'm sure they'd be cool with that.

And to each their own. I wouldn't be actively cheering for Iginla to score on the Flames, but if it did happen, I'd give him a warm ovation for it.
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Not saying it will happen, but the rumor has always been Iginla will play until ~43. That would give him 4.5 seasons to work with. I don't think 22 goals / season is completely unrealistic. I wouldn't bet on it, but I also wouldn't completely rule it out yet.

And barring any career ending injury or defection Ovi should be at 600 within 4 seasons.
I think Iginla is done after this contract. He's effective on the powerplay because his shooting and passing are as good as ever, but many Avs fans are saying he's too slow to be effective at even strength.
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Ovechkin and Stamkos will get there easily barring some kind of disaster.
The chances of either of them getting to 700 is still fairly low - mostly because they are both a ways away. Ovechkin would have to average 40 goals a season over the next 5 years, does he have much longer than that in the league, who knows?

Iggy is probably more likely to get to 700, simply because he's closer to that goal now.

But certainly, Ovechkin and Stamkos could reach that mark if they stay healthy and have decently long careers.
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The chances of either of them getting to 700 is still fairly low - mostly because they are both a ways away. Ovechkin would have to average 40 goals a season over the next 5 years, does he have much longer than that in the league, who knows?

Iggy is probably more likely to get to 700, simply because he's closer to that goal now.

But certainly, Ovechkin and Stamkos could reach that mark if they stay healthy and have decently long careers.
Iggy does not have another 15% of his goals left in him
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:44 AM   #51
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Since the 2010/11 season, these are your most prolific scorers:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?repo...regate=1&pos=S

Ovechkin, Stamkos, Perry.

Perry is off the list because he is already 30 and is only sitting at 309 goals. And Anaheim sucks.

Ovechkin I think barring some very unfortunate injury will get there - 495 goals and is still scoring at a pretty good clip. He is 30 as well. I don't think he will miss hitting 600 goals. Real question is if he can sustain it until he hits the 700 or even (gasp) the 800 mark (I think 800 is extremely doubtful, 700 is within range but far from guaranteed).

Stamkos is an interesting one - some people say he is not the same since his broken leg. Or not the same since St. Louis left. Or they insist you have to take a wait and see approach as to where he goes and who he gets to play with. He is only 25. I think he is the next best bet after Ovechkin. Definitely not a guarantee, but at this point I wouldn't really bet against him.

I think that is all. You have young guys like Tarasenko (tied for 2nd with Stamkos) if you look at last season + this season so far. Gaudreau is starting to score at a really nice pace - but even then he will have to increase that pace + stay healthy long enough to come close.

Always next to impossible to predict these things until a player comes close. The NHL is littered with guys like Cheechoo who score at an elite pace, but for a short time frame. You have career ending or career limiting injuries. You have players that suddenly hit 'the wall' at a certain age.

Iginla had a few elite seasons, but was also durable and consistent from season to season. He is 19th on the all-time list, and should (barring injury or some kind of a drought) be passing Bobby Hull for 16th on that list (Hull is at 610) this season, leap-frogging Kurri (601) and Cicarelli (608).

That is pretty damn special, and pretty damn rare. I myself would be standing up and applauding Iginla if he scores at the Dome against the Flames for his 600th, his 602nd, his 609th or his 611th. Those are all historical milestones. Even more impressive factoring-in the dead-puck eras, and the lockouts. Definitely warranting of a standing ovation in my opinion.

When Gretzky had his farewell tour, the crowd at the Dome was yelling "Shoot" whenever Gretzky touched the puck. This was the captain of the bitter rival Edmonton Oilers who they used to chant "Whiner" every game to. Iginla would get that ovation without question.
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I went through and updated my Excel worksheet that catalogues every assist on all 599 goals. I'll post it again once he hits 600, but for those that are curious the top 5 stands at:

1. Craig Conroy (78)
2. Alex Tanguay (77)
3. Daymond Langkow (53)
4. Dion Phaneuf (40)
5. Olli Jokinen (35)

Tanguay's are split between Calgary (64) and Colorado (13).

Lucic and Krejci sit 17th and 18th all-time with 15 and 14 assists respectively.
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I might be in the minority here but I wouldn't be cool with the above because Iginla no longer plays for Calgary. If his 600th goal costs us the game, it can be the difference between making the playoffs or not and that is way more relevant to me than celebrating a milestone for an opposing team's player. Besides, how do you think the current roster would feel if we start cheering for Iginla goals. He moved on, so I don't mind naming him a star in the game at the end for a cheer (if the game was being played in Calgary) but no way will I be jumping for joy if Iginla scores a critical goal. The team comes before the player for me.

With that said, it is a huge milestone and he has had a very successful career! Goodluck to him getting #600.
If the team doesn't make the playoffs it's not going to be attributable to one goal. It may be attributable to an awful start. A 600th goal by one of the greatest Flames in history is an undeniably significant and unique event and I'd be very happy for Iginla to get a standing ovation and a call from Beasely if he scored his 600th against the Flames. The history has value.
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I think Iginla is done after this contract. He's effective on the powerplay because his shooting and passing are as good as ever, but many Avs fans are saying he's too slow to be effective at even strength.
That's the big if. You always got the impression from the media guys that Iginla wanted to be the guy who just keeps on playing.

Based on the way he has been playing with Colorado he should finish this contract around 640 at 39 years old,

It wouldn't be unpresidented for him to play 3-4 additional seasons in the 3rd line, PP specialist role. Especially since he's only had two good sniffs at the cup.

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Apologies if already posted...

Digging deeper into the numbers, an argument can be made that Iginla is one of the top 10 goal-scorers in history, possibly one of the top five.

To illustrate why Iginla statistically ranks higher than 19th among goal-scorers, consider the two players immediately ahead of him: Jari Kurri, who scored 601 goals, and Dino Ciccarelli, who scored 608.

Those Hall of Fame members began their careers in the 1980-81 season and were nearing their end when Iginla made his debut in 1996-97. That means Kurri and Ciccarelli scored their 600-plus goals in the high-scoring 1980s, when scoring was 25 percent higher than it is today, and avoided most of the low-scoring "dead puck" era Iginla had to contend with. That makes it unfair to compare their goal totals with Iginla's in absolute terms.

When making adjustments for the differences in average NHL scoring levels, Iginla moves up to fifth since the 1967 expansion, and Kurri and Ciccarelli drop to 31st and 26th.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...d=nhl:topheads
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Vullman was on the radio yesterday discussing this and it was a good listen.

Also would like to take this opportunity to point out that JArome Iginla was spelled incorrectly on TheFan960's story. Our own local radio station. Pretty embarrassing IMO.

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When Gretzky had his farewell tour, the crowd at the Dome was yelling "Shoot" whenever Gretzky touched the puck. This was the captain of the bitter rival Edmonton Oilers who they used to chant "Whiner" every game to. Iginla would get that ovation without question.

Yup and heck Kobe Bryant was getting MAJOR CHEERS last night every time he hit a basket in BOSTON!! Same thing with Calgary/Edmonton, Celtics/Lakers were bitter rivals, heck Kobe just beat the Celtics for a Championship a few years back!
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599 no more.
Iggy scores his 600th vs the Kings.
Super happy for him.
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Awesome he did it against Darryl
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