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Old 12-29-2015, 02:48 PM   #61
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A sad day for Oilers rebuild 1.0.
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Old 12-29-2015, 03:22 PM   #62
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If we did gagner for Raymond I'd be happy. But I wouldn't want to claim him off of waivers
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Old 12-29-2015, 03:29 PM   #63
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He is just not cut out to be a NHL level guy. Will be in the Spengler Cup in a year or two.
Cory Conacher 2.0?
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Old 12-29-2015, 04:36 PM   #64
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I want no part of him at 5M/yr, but if he could be had for a bargain contract on a short term, I would be a-ok with acquiring him.
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Old 12-29-2015, 04:49 PM   #65
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You are not getting the "8 point night" Sam Gagner. You're getting the "5 points this season" Sam Gagner. Massive pass.
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Amusingly back in the last game of the season before the year he was drafted, the Flames were playing Edmonton and were up 2-0 half way through the game. Then Beesley announced that whomever lost and the Flames clinched a playoff spot. Calgary stopped playing and Edmonton came back to win.

That bumped them up in the standings from 5th worst to 6th worst. Chicago slid down to 5 and won the draft lottery. They got Patrick Kane, Edmonton got Gagner.

Even though the Flames lost the game, they were partially responsible for the Oilers protracted streak of being in the basement, so it was a win after all.
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"8 point night" Sam Gagner wasn't much better either. Didn't he like almost double his point total on that one night? I recall he had dreadful stats leading up to that game.
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Old 12-29-2015, 05:33 PM   #68
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I have no clue why people would want Sam Gagner. No clue.

I also didn't understand any of the supposed hype when he was drafted so high either. Made no sense to me.
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Old 12-29-2015, 05:49 PM   #69
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i tired of seeing him celebrate goals like they were stanley cup winning goals. he made a lot of money being very average
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Old 12-29-2015, 05:56 PM   #70
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Edmonton should bring him back. one more former 1st round pick cannot hurt right . . . . .
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The only wah I'd want Gagner on my team is if I was the gm of another team who was playing against the flames...and I wanted the flames to win.

He's just not good enough.
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No. And no.
Just no.

No.

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Old 12-29-2015, 06:23 PM   #73
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i just can't stop laughing at some posts here. Sam Gagner, proven loser with absolutely nonexistent defensive and physicall skills, carreer -104 in +/-
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26 years old and a career -104? That's actually kind of impressive.
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If we developed this kid he would be good. Only Edmonton and maybe Toronto can screw up a player
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Old 12-29-2015, 07:10 PM   #76
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26 years old and a career -104? That's actually kind of impressive.
In the context that he played almost his entire career for the Oilers, not really.
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Old 12-29-2015, 08:58 PM   #77
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Noooo thanks to Sammy
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Usually the small guys need to be elite skaters to overcome their size. Gagner just didn't have elite anything to help overcome his size.

Another Oilers high pick that is easy to ridicule. Taking him over Voracek is laughable.
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:33 AM   #79
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Amusingly back in the last game of the season before the year he was drafted, the Flames were playing Edmonton and were up 2-0 half way through the game. Then Beesley announced that whomever lost and the Flames clinched a playoff spot. Calgary stopped playing and Edmonton came back to win.

That bumped them up in the standings from 5th worst to 6th worst. Chicago slid down to 5 and won the draft lottery. They got Patrick Kane, Edmonton got Gagner.

Even though the Flames lost the game, they were partially responsible for the Oilers protracted streak of being in the basement, so it was a win after all.
In Gagner's defence the Oilers would have squandered Kane's talent as well. It is similar to the hypothetical Comrie for Corey Perry & a 1st that "the smartest man alive" Kevin Lowe rejected in the fall of 2003. In theory it sounds like a heck of a deal. In reality if it went through Corey Perry would have had his talent squandered to the point where it reunited him with Robbie Shremp in the AHL.

The first rounder I believe would have been Smid's selection. It is a kind of a tragic comedy for Smid as the only thing he had going for him when he was traded was that at least he wasn't drafted by the Oinkers. He at least had some previous experience with an organization that is NOT a fraud masquerading as a pathetic joke.
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Amusingly back in the last game of the season before the year he was drafted, the Flames were playing Edmonton and were up 2-0 half way through the game. Then Beesley announced that whomever lost and the Flames clinched a playoff spot. Calgary stopped playing and Edmonton came back to win.

That bumped them up in the standings from 5th worst to 6th worst. Chicago slid down to 5 and won the draft lottery. They got Patrick Kane, Edmonton got Gagner.

Even though the Flames lost the game, they were partially responsible for the Oilers protracted streak of being in the basement, so it was a win after all.
It bumped them up from 4th worst to 6th worst, leapfrogging both Washington and Chicago, so even if they had lost the game, they still wouldn't have picked first (assuming the lottery would have played out the same). At best, they would have had Alzner available to them as well, but they probably still would have taken Gagner.
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