Evander Kane of Buffalo Sabres is under investigation for sex assault.

[rbochan]

Ooooo! Ahhhh! Speculation on the warpath!

[sureLoss]

Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan
Evander Kane made a brief statement. Said he has done nothing wrong and looks forward to clearing his name.

Unconfirmed if he said it while putting a stack of cash up to his ear and pretending it was a phone.

[mikeecho]

Wonder if Kane is still with his girlfriend? If so, he's going to have to put up another billboard on Sunset Strip to explain this whole "misunderstanding."

[zamler]

This thread is progressing exactly as expected.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I'm not going to foray into anything about the actual case because we've all seen just how pointless these debates get over things where no one has the facts or any ability to have an educated opinion about it.

What I will say is we really need to have something in place that prevents these stories from "breaking" or getting reported to the public unless someone has actually been charged with a crime. No one is benefitting from the knowledge that Kane is "under investigation" right now. In fact, the only thing that is happening from this is someone is getting hurt unnecessarily by the fact that we all know, whether that be Kane or the alleged victim.

Should be illegal to report on crimes under investigation or something.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Is this the same case where the lawyer fired the client and the DA released a scathing letter that all but said she was lying? The same case where the mother was tampering with evidence?

I think if you're waiting for difinitive proof, you'll be waiting a while. Having said that, it's not tremendously difficult to connect the dots here.

I honestly think most of the time when a rich guy gets falsely accused, he'd rather have the whole thing go away than sue the person over it. It's not worth it to them to exact 'revenge' because it keeps the story in the headlines and it's probably annoying to deal with. All for a pittance in his eyes. From a police/DA perspective it's also hard to prove and a PR nightmare so it's probably not worth the hassel from their POV unless it's a slam dunk. Besides that, I don't think there's a lot of political pressure to fight for the rich, white guy the same way there is for rape victims.

I'm not saying that the accusation wasn't false there. I'm saying there's nothing to establish that money was the motive. You are entitled to believe what you want when a "rich guy" gets accused, but there are very few facts or statistics which support that belief. If she was after money she could still sue and probably get a decent settlement).

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

If she was after money she could still sue and probably get a decent settlement).

Yeah, or just do what the gold diggers on Ray Donovan did.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/...-housewarming/

Money for life!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Pretty sure no one said they should skip due process, like you said.

Oh geez, haha. I'm not going to go through the whole thread, but can't you at least remember Djones's crusade to skip the investigation portion and go straight to jury?

Grand jury, real jury I don't really care. In such a public case it shouldn't just come down to whether or not a cop/detective thinks the alleged victim is reliable. People do weird #### in these situations.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Oh geez, haha. I'm not going to go through the whole thread, but can't you at least remember Djones's crusade to skip the investigation portion and go straight to jury?

Pretty sure that's not what he said. He may have pointed out that a prosecutor can indict directly rather than get an indictment at a grand jury stage. That's completely different than what you are suggesting.

[jayswin]

He literally said the police shouldn't be trusted in rape investigations and it should instead go straight to trial. Maybe my comment was a little unnessecary/throwaway for this thread, ill admit that, but your staunch denial that it happened is odd. I honestly don't know what else to say man, sorry. This is too painful, haha.

[jayswin]

That was a direct quote btw, one of many comments he made, it wasn't me trying to remember what he said and then putting it in a quote box, lol.

[GioforPM]

You already said it wasn't a direct quote - you were going from memory- and you weren't going to look for it. If I'm wrong so be it, but I don't think anyone said that.

[jayswin]

Sorry, poor wording on my part. I meant I wasn't going to go find everything. That quote underneath was a direct quote from DJones. He most certainly was advocating for the skipping of due process because it's such a terrible time for rape victims and they shouldn't have their claims questioned because it's already such a difficult time or something.

[jayswin]

Sorry, normally I'd quote the person's actual post, but it wasn't letting me quote from that thread to this one for some reason, so I had to just copy and paste into a text box.

[psyang]

Not to muddy the waters or anything, but I recently read the article below. I haven't read DJones' original quotes, but maybe the article will help shed light on where he might have been coming from. It's easy to discredit a victim, and not all of those in authority are properly trained. At the very least, details like "memory issues" shouldn't be leaked to the media - no good can come of that.

An Unbelievable Story of Rape

She had reported being raped in her apartment by a man who had bound and gagged her. Then, confronted by police with inconsistencies in her story, she had conceded it might have been a dream. Then she admitted making the story up. One TV newscast announced, “A Western Washington woman has confessed that she cried wolf when it came to her rape she reported earlier this week.” She had been charged with filing a false report, which is why she was here today, to accept or turn down a plea deal.

[Split98]

Regardless of the outcome here, I hope the 2 Kanes take one thing away from the public reaction to their accusations: people believe it.

That would say a lot to me if the public collectively reacted with "well... he IS a dick..."

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by psyang

Not to muddy the waters or anything, but I recently read the article below. I haven't read DJones' original quotes, but maybe the article will help shed light on where he might have been coming from. It's easy to discredit a victim, and not all of those in authority are properly trained. At the very least, details like "memory issues" shouldn't be leaked to the media - no good can come of that.

An Unbelievable Story of Rape

Not to mention, but every single human being (except maybe prodigies with photographic memories) have "memory issues". We are not used to having to recall details and specifics that are mundane under normal circumstances. Add trauma and stress to the equation, and you often have to wait until the person can relax before the recollections can even start.

I feel that police officer who said that should be fired.

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by rbochan

Ooooo! Ahhhh! Speculation on the warpath!

Someone went to Western (as did I - class of 2005).

You hope it's a false allegation, but the numbers say it's probably not. Personally, I'm interested in finding out whether he gets the same support from the hockey community that Patrick Kane did, all things (and here I am referring to one.major thing) considered.

[Hackey]

Good thing they don't use statistics in court.

[Wedge]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

That's the most judgmental and horrible thing I've read on this forum this year. Your post was bad and you should feel bad.

Sorry to disappoint. Do I think rape if funny? Grow up. But do I think Kane jumped from the bushes and did naughty things to this woman who was returning from church? Immmm, probably not.

If you have any sense of how society works (i.e. doesn't work) then you will be capable of theorizing what happened. None of us know what happened with the Patrick Kane situation, but I'm betting the cases are similar with regards to the males' judgement, the females' judgement, and the "celebrity" factor coming into play.

Again, of course nothing is funny about rape ... I just doubt one occurred.