12-27-2015, 08:29 PM
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#341
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by New Era
This is Treliving's issue and he needs to address it. 1st PP unit features Dennis Wideman. 2nd PP unit features Mason Raymond. Seriously, WTF??? Billy Beane these guys and move them for a year's supply of soft drinks.
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By all reports they have been trying to move Wideman for a long time. And they put Raymond on waivers. So for all your bluster the question remains what do you want him to do? Mortgage the future for a short term upgrade?
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12-27-2015, 08:29 PM
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#342
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Has anyone asked Hartley the question about Raymond. I know you don't want to make it personal but when your PP is 30th in the league and a guy on your second unit has 4 points. WTF.
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12-27-2015, 08:30 PM
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#343
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLAME FAN
Gio had the puck. It was a bad pass but who was pick inning up spot ? Hamilton was way too deep on the pinch and not wide open as some want to suggest.
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no, he was wide, wide open
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12-27-2015, 08:30 PM
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#344
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First Line Centre
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Hall trying to act tough tonight
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12-27-2015, 08:31 PM
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#345
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
yeah, I was being sarcastic
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I know. 
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12-27-2015, 08:31 PM
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#346
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
While you are right on the anecdotal example, Mason Raymond is not a viable NHL player.
Right on que, an actual viable NHL player scores a goal, attaboy Stajan.
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In a perfect world he doesn't have the contract he does, and isn't even a Flame, but over the last 5-6 games he's been a decent player for them. But the story is that he's garbage so every mistake is magnified and every good play is either a fluke or someone else making the most of having to playing with him.
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12-27-2015, 08:31 PM
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#347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Stajan usually has a good game when playing the Oil.
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12-27-2015, 08:32 PM
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#348
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Hey look! Raymond with another stupid play!
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12-27-2015, 08:32 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: H-Town, Texas
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Raymond tries so hard
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#350
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
By all reports they have been trying to move Wideman for a long time. And they put Raymond on waivers. So for all your bluster the question remains what do you want him to do? Mortgage the future for a short term upgrade?
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I generally agree with your thoughts in this debate but I don't understand why Raymond can't be put on waivers again... and again... and again....
Maybe just leave him in Stockton? Dude brings literally nothing and it pains me to see him wearing Flames silks at this point. Another poster said it best, it's like Weimer again lol, except wimpier and not good at anything.
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#351
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
No ####? I think Treliving still watches the games and can see the decisions his coaching staff is making. If the coach is playing guys that shouldn't be out there, for more than obvious reasons, and the coach keeps playing them, take those players away from the coach by moving them. That is what Billy Beane did as manager of the Athletics. The I understand a GM can have a pretty huge impact on the roster.
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Man, what's with the overreactions tonight. It's not simple trading your garbage players with big contracts in the modern-salary league. I'm sure Treliving has tried to trade those players especially with how known he is with being among the most active in the NHL.
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#352
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Another chance for Hartley or Gelinas or Harvey the Hound to possibly put out a decent 2nd unit. Or just score with the first unit.
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#353
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Lifetime Suspension
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Raymond is skating like a spaz but I like the effort.
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#354
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
No ####? I think Treliving still watches the games and can see the decisions his coaching staff is making. If the coach is playing guys that shouldn't be out there, for more than obvious reasons, and the coach keeps playing them, take those players away from the coach by moving them. That is what Billy Beane did as manager of the Athletics. The I understand a GM can have a pretty huge impact on the roster.
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Moving them how?
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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can we decline the 5 on 4 and request 3 on 3 for 2 minutes?
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#356
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
Hey look! Raymond with another stupid play!
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Was it the one where Bennett missed the pass or where he got slashed?
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#357
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Franchise Player
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Oh no, another PP...for us!
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12-27-2015, 08:33 PM
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#358
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Raymond time!
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12-27-2015, 08:34 PM
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#359
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Bullet!
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12-27-2015, 08:34 PM
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#360
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey.modern
Man, what's with the overreactions tonight. It's not simple trading your garbage players with big contracts in the modern-salary league. I'm sure Treliving has tried to trade those players especially with how known he is with being among the most active in the NHL.
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Remove the option for Hartley. Dump him in the AHL and forget he exists. It really is as simple as that.
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