View Poll Results: Can the Flames make the Playoffs if they finish with the season the worst PP?
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yes
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12-20-2015, 11:49 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
D on where and when to shoot.
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I thought last game, defense made terrible reads on when to shoot
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12-20-2015, 12:01 PM
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#22
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In the Sin Bin
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Colborne and Raymond are getting PP time. Whatever Hartley is on is ####ing with his head.
Gelinas needs to start earning his paycheck or gtfo.
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12-20-2015, 12:03 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
I thought last game, defense made terrible reads on when to shoot
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Ya its been a struggle for them. Not sure if that comes down to coaching/strategy, confidence or the D pairings decision making but some kind of change is needed.
Its painful to watch
Last edited by Samonadreau; 12-20-2015 at 12:07 PM.
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12-20-2015, 12:45 PM
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#24
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that they dump the friggin puck and chase! What the hell is the purpose of that. We don't do it 5 on 5 so why on the PP? Last year the forward would skate it in, pass to the point and just like that our pp would be setup and ready to do some damage. Its the dumbest thing ever and frustrates the hell out of me. Is Daryl Sutter secretly running the power play?
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12-20-2015, 01:07 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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The team can easily make the playoffs with the worst PP if they improve the PK and continue to score 3 or more goals a game. I find a teams PP has minimal effect on their actual win/loss ratio.
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12-20-2015, 01:24 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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They are on the doorstep with the worst, so of course they can. PK is getting better too.
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12-20-2015, 01:26 PM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
The team can easily make the playoffs with the worst PP if they improve the PK and continue to score 3 or more goals a game. I find a teams PP has minimal effect on their actual win/loss ratio.
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While that may be true, it's hard to go anywhere in the playoffs without good special teams.
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12-20-2015, 01:27 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that they dump the friggin puck and chase! What the hell is the purpose of that. We don't do it 5 on 5 so why on the PP? Last year the forward would skate it in, pass to the point and just like that our pp would be setup and ready to do some damage. Its the dumbest thing ever and frustrates the hell out of me. Is Daryl Sutter secretly running the power play?
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Out number other team in corner, create a cycle, draw opponent out of position, profit!
Only Johnny has the ability to cross the line with speed and carry the puck through the other team's D.
Maybe having Ferland on RW will allow him to detonate the D on his side and carry in.
I like everything more than the stupid 2014/5 drop pass play.
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12-20-2015, 01:46 PM
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#29
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Self-Retired
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The forwards stop moving their feet and keep getting beat to loose pucks. It's like they don't know what the other forwards are going to do with the puck. So they get caught standing around watching the play.
Zone entry is just laughable. If they mixed some hard around dumps with blueline possession entry, it would make them less predictable.
For this reason, why is Jones not on the PP? I love Ferland on it cause he battles down low, Jones uses his body to get the puck too.
But Raymond and Colborne are just too soft along the boards to win battles.
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12-20-2015, 02:18 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
While that may be true, it's hard to go anywhere in the playoffs without good special teams.
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I agree, I was replying to if the team could make the playoffs with the worst PP, they can but it certainly would punish them in the post season and would not get very far imo.
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12-20-2015, 02:30 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Bingo made a great point in his Game takes. Gio and these feeble wristers from the point aren't helping matters. Rarely result in scoring chances and often cause a loss of possession.
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12-20-2015, 02:56 PM
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#32
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Out number other team in corner, create a cycle, draw opponent out of position, profit!
Only Johnny has the ability to cross the line with speed and carry the puck through the other team's D.
Maybe having Ferland on RW will allow him to detonate the D on his side and carry in.
I like everything more than the stupid 2014/5 drop pass play.
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This is so very wrong... for one we never out number them in the corner because 75 percent of the time you see their goalie play the puck because he has so much time.
Last year our power play involved skating the puck in. Just like EVERY OTHER GOD DAMN TEAM IN THE NHL! More than gaudreau is capable of that.
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12-20-2015, 03:01 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by sun
Think we need to see five D out there.
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Came for this. Left satisfied.
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So far, this is the oldest I've been.
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12-20-2015, 03:57 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Once they finally get set up they aren't as bad. So it's the initial offensive zone faceoff (and any others they get), the zone entries and the puck retrieval.
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12-20-2015, 04:48 PM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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I have never liked having Colborne on the PP. My confidence drops as soon as he's out there.
I also think the loss of Byron has affected our PK.
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12-20-2015, 05:42 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
This is so very wrong... for one we never out number them in the corner because 75 percent of the time you see their goalie play the puck because he has so much time.
Last year our power play involved skating the puck in. Just like EVERY OTHER GOD DAMN TEAM IN THE NHL! More than gaudreau is capable of that.
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Yeah? Well thats just like your opinion man.
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12-20-2015, 05:45 PM
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#37
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n00b!
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Yes, they can if they continue to move up in terms of 5 on 5 play. Highly doubt they'll finish the season last on the PP though. Too much talent on this team to finish last after the season, it's just confidence right now.
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12-20-2015, 05:46 PM
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#38
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n00b!
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Bingo made a great point in his Game takes. Gio and these feeble wristers from the point aren't helping matters. Rarely result in scoring chances and often cause a loss of possession.
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I actually disagree. If you look back at AC's video montages from last year, many of Calgary's goals last year were either from smart Giordano wristers that create rebounds or go in themselves. He's a smart player, you don't always need to unleash a bomb to score and Giordano knows that.
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12-20-2015, 08:10 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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The power play looked a lot better tonight, the puck is passing around nicely and they are actually getting chances and scored on one of them.
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12-20-2015, 10:02 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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I'm more worried about the PK than the PP but geez Louise. How can this group of guys not score on the PP? With a magician like Johnny, they should be top 5 PP and not because they rely solely on him, because he had good tools to work with... but they're all just looking like tools on the PP.
See what I did there?
But fortunately, due to their division, they can make the playoffs with this putrid PP%. Lucky year if they do though.
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