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Old 12-15-2015, 06:59 PM   #161
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I don't want to rag on him, but are we not approaching the realisation that Gelinas cannot coach special teams? Feel like its the elephant in the room. I'd argue its becoming an even bigger killer to this team than the goaltending.

Or do the management think this is all on the players?
Flames have speed and agility and some great puck movers. For some reason, Gelinas is not utilizing these on the PP
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let's claim Zach Kassian.
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Pretty negative thread so far, just read through.

I'm willing to bet the Flames come out strong in the second and take this one in the third. All day baby
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:00 PM   #165
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I don't want to rag on him, but are we not approaching the realisation that Gelinas cannot coach special teams? Feel like its the elephant in the room. I'd argue its becoming an even bigger killer to this team than the goaltending.

Or do the management think this is all on the players?
It's getting ridiculous. Fire someone.
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Roger, WTF did you do to your hair?

You look like Johnny Rotten.
Thats nothing like Johnny Rottens hair cut. Rotten had long spikey hair all over his head.

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Old 12-15-2015, 07:01 PM   #167
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This game's a lot more fun when you don't take it too serious, and when you have beer. I'm done getting too emotionally invested.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:02 PM   #168
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'special' teams indeed, ugh! What the hell are they practising? The slow entry drop pass needs to die in a fire!
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:02 PM   #169
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I don't want to rag on him, but are we not approaching the realisation that Gelinas cannot coach special teams? Feel like its the elephant in the room. I'd argue its becoming an even bigger killer to this team than the goaltending.
The poor special teams are just an extension of poor 5 v 5 play. Corsi would show you the trends.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:03 PM   #170
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I don't want to rag on him, but are we not approaching the realisation that Gelinas cannot coach special teams? Feel like its the elephant in the room. I'd argue its becoming an even bigger killer to this team than the goaltending.

Or do the management think this is all on the players?
Nah, management is going to ride out this coaching staff for the season. They recognize we're not contenders, but also realize that, because of how crappy our division is, we've got a shot at the playoffs.

So I imagine the thought-process right now is "do nothing for the short-term." Only moves which look 2-3 years down the road will be considered. I bet we sell UFA's at the deadline, even if we're in the playoffs.

See how the season shakes out, then, depending on if we make it or not (likely not), the coaching staff gets cleaned out in the offseason and Treleving brings in his first coaching hire.
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Why Colborne instead of Bennett?
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:06 PM   #172
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Honest question, who makes the assistant and various other sub coach decisions? GM or head coach?
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Flames still playing at a casual pace
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:06 PM   #174
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The poor special teams are just an extension of poor 5 v 5 play. Corsi would show you the trends.
During our 5-game winning streak, our 5v5 Corsi was actually almost good (49.6%), and our ability to generate scoring and high-danger scoring chances was excellent, well over 50%. We also shot the lights out, about 13% on-ice-shooting. (These numbers are 5v5, Score-Adjusted).

However, our PP shooting percentage was 4%. FOUR percent. That's just... just freaking terribly, terribly bad.

Our 5v5 play has been improving consistently and, over the last few games has been quite good. Our PP on the other hand has been bad at a level that is actually shocking. A level that should be vastly more impossible to maintain than all the 'unsustainability' of last year.
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forum so slow. Guess it's safe to say it wasn't the thanks feature.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:07 PM   #176
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Flames look no better so far.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:07 PM   #177
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I'm not the big Wideman hater like most guys here.

But what I don't understand is that if you have the world's worst PP, why oh why do you keep Wideman on it with Gio? Why not just keep the regular pairings and play them on the PP? Could it be worse than the current state of the woeful PP?
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James Neal with another dirty hit.
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