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Fire of the Phoenix · 12-13-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

Ahahaha, Hitlery. After all the dumb satire names for politicians, that one genuinely caught me off guard and made me laugh. Awesome.

Jesus, I didn't even notice. If I had, I probably wouldn't have responded at all.

Nobama · 12-13-2015, 03:31 PM

Every time I hear her name and that she is who the democrats are pushing to be their nominee I laugh.

It was the video of Mohammad that caused the attacks in Libya... Right Hillary??

2Stonedbirds · 12-13-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

What subjects should they cover as they "stick to comedy"?

They've been doing political comedy for 40 years. They haven't changed it up to go after Trump.

They don't need to cover any topical subjects. When SNL was at it's best was when political satire wasn't in their lexicon of subject material.

They have increasingly become more and more political as they have become less and less relevant. Especially when their partisanship drives their 'comedy'.

2Stonedbirds · 12-13-2015, 04:09 PM

Clinton shouldn't even be a choice for a presidential election, or any other position in office.

She should be in prison.

RougeUnderoos · 12-13-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

They don't need to cover any topical subjects. When SNL was at it's best was when political satire wasn't in their lexicon of subject material.

They have increasingly become more and more political as they have become less and less relevant. Especially when their partisanship drives their 'comedy'.

"Don't cover current events" is kind of limiting when it comes to a weekly show. Just curious, but who gets to make that rule up for them? "You can't cover this subject..." comes from who exactly?

Political subjects have always been in their "lexicon of subject material". Dan Aykroyd made fun of Jimmy Carter.

nik- · 12-13-2015, 04:10 PM

yeah, 2stonedbirds has gone off the deep end here.

2Stonedbirds · 12-13-2015, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

"Don't cover current events" is kind of limiting when it comes to a weekly show. Just curious, but who gets to make that rule up for them? "You can't cover this subject..." comes from who exactly?

Political subjects have always been in their "lexicon of subject material". Dan Aykroyd made fun of Jimmy Carter.

Again, I said "when SNL was at it's best was when political satire wasn't in their lexicon of subject material." That wasn't as exclusion. Go look at their "best of" catalog, you won't find any skits of Hillary slinging beers, Obama singing songs, or the first lady saying "ermahgerd" over and over. Cuz it isn't funny. It's an endorsement.

They can cover whatever subject they want. I really don't care as I don't watch anymore. The cast, and writing have all went downhill.

jayswin · 12-13-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Again, I said "when SNL was at it's best was when political satire wasn't in their lexicon of subject material." That wasn't as exclusion. Go look at their "best of" catalog, you won't find any skits of Hillary slinging beers, Obama singing songs, or the first lady saying "ermahgerd" over and over. Cuz it isn't funny. It's an endorsement.

They can cover whatever subject they want. I really don't care as I don't watch anymore. The cast, and writing have all went downhill.

I don't think it's an endorsement as much as an attempt to take political figures who are well known and go "here they are doing things that are goofy that you normally wouldn't see them doing!!!" for cheap laughs, imo.

2Stonedbirds · 12-13-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

yeah, 2stonedbirds has gone off the deep end here.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

US code, title 18, part 1, chapter 101, section 2071.

Yup, just going off the deep end.

If it was enough to take down Nixon, why does it not apply to Hillary?

2Stonedbirds · 12-13-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't think it's an endorsement as much as an attempt to take political figures who are well known and go "here they are doing things that are goofy that you normally wouldn't see them doing!!!" for cheap laughs, imo.

Which would be fine to me if their damn partisanship didn't rule it.

jayswin · 12-13-2015, 04:30 PM

Although, I'll admit I was pretty annoyed when Hilary (hitlery) went on SNL and made a joke about flip flopping and now being against Keystone XL because it seemed like the thing to do when it was such a serious topic and affected so many people, not to mention being such a bull**** political false flag to begin with.

Nobama · 12-13-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

Although, I'll admit I was pretty annoyed when Hilary (hitlery) went on SNL and made a joke about flip flopping and now being against Keystone XL because it seemed like the thing to do when it was such a serious topic and affected so many people, not to mention being such a bull**** political false flag to begin with.

Close. It's not "the thing to do". It's not "about the environment". She is against the keystone for the same reason Obama is... Their number one democrate campaign donar is Warren Buffet. Warren owns the railways that deliver crude from the north to refineries in Cusing OK. The pipeline would cost him billions. This is the ONLY reason the democrats are against the Keystone.

I do not agree with all of Trumps ideas but at least they are his ideas and he is self funded in this election. If you want to vote for any other candidates, republican or democrat, you must first look into who is making the major contributions to their campaign. Then find out what their "interests" are and that is what you are truly voting for. Koch brothers, Warren Buffet, these are the puppet masters behind every candidate minus Donald Trump.

jayswin · 12-13-2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nobama

Close. It's not "the thing to do". It's not "about the environment". She is against the keystone for the same reason Obama is... Their number one democrate campaign donar is Warren Buffet. Warren owns the railways that deliver crude from the north to refineries in Cusing OK. The pipeline would cost him billions. This is the ONLY reason the democrats are against the Keystone.

I do not agree with all of Trumps ideas but at least they are his ideas and he is self funded in this election. If you want to vote for any other candidates, republican or democrat, you must first look into who is making the major contributions to their campaign. Then find out what their "interests" are and that is what you are truly voting for. Koch brothers, Warren Buffet, these are the puppet masters behind every candidate minus Donald Trump.

For sure, I fully understand why they're against it, I was just stating that was the attempted joke in the episode - that she was against keystone because it's the thing to do.

DuffMan · 12-13-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nobama

Good thing the democrats are perfect and none of those things listed.

Remember what Hitlery said after people died under her in Benghazi "what does it matter anyway?"

Bwahaaahaaaaahaaaa Hitlery

Too funny. I always think I'm on Fox when I read Nobamas posts.

DuffMan · 12-13-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Trump has his CCP.

SNL should just stick to comedy. But I guess when you have not been funny for 15 years you gotta change it up.

What, I found that humorous. Here's a question I have. Why are there no funny conservatives? There's no comedians I can think of. The last comedy show I can think of that would appeal to conservatives was All in the Family.

wittynickname · 12-13-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nobama

Every time I hear her name and that she is who the democrats are pushing to be their nominee I laugh.

It was the video of Mohammad that caused the attacks in Libya... Right Hillary??

And it was Weapons of Mass Destruction that got us into an unwinnable war that's a huge part of the debt the US owes right now? That 16 trillion dollars that the GOP loves to blame on welfare and social security, and not the ridiculous military budget, full of gift contracts to companies like Halliburton?

And speaking of...

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Clinton shouldn't even be a choice for a presidential election, or any other position in office.

She should be in prison.

How do you feel about Dick Cheney? And Bush part 2? Who again, lied to the American people to start a war, who then encouraged and condoned torture?

How about them?

Politicians are, in general, not good people. They're not your friends or your neighbors. Democrats are just generally your run-of-the-mill scummy politicians.

The GOP has become a trainwreck full of people with values more in line with the ultra-conservative Middle East than with progressive Western nations.

DuffMan · 12-13-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Clinton shouldn't even be a choice for a presidential election, or any other position in office.

She should be in prison.

Holy, do you and Nobama know each other from Infowars forums?

Lanny_McDonald · 12-13-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

US code, title 18, part 1, chapter 101, section 2071.

Yup, just going off the deep end.

If it was enough to take down Nixon, why does it not apply to Hillary?

What exactly was illegal here? I don't like Clinton at all, but what did she do that has not been done 1,000 times before her? The double standard you apply is what makes people mock you, and Quincy Egg Nobama, and believe you've gone off the deep end.

RougeUnderoos · 12-13-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

There's no comedians I can think of.

Dennis Miller is, I assume, still a comedian, and he's gone full Fox Crazy. Funny thing is he's never been bigger than he was in the 80's, when he was ripping on Ronald Reagan on SNL.

Larry The Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy are (were?) hugely popular.

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

The last comedy show I can think of that would appeal to conservatives was All in the Family.

Only if they completely missed the point, which is entirely possible.

CliffFletcher · 12-13-2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

What, I found that humorous. Here's a question I have. Why are there no funny conservatives? There's no comedians I can think of. The last comedy show I can think of that would appeal to conservatives was All in the Family.

???

All in the Family was about as liberal a show as you'll ever see. It was created explicitly to show the generation gap between the with-it young people (Michael and Gloria) and the grouchy old fossil (Archie). The whole point of the show was to highlight contemporary social issues the television had been too conservative to touch (racism, abortion, women's liberation, homosexuality), with bigot Archie as the rhetorical punching bag. The subtlety of the writing, and Carroll O'Connor's performance, saved the show from being simply a progressive polemic.