Alberta suicide rate soars by 30%

[Robo]

my sisters husband tried to kill himself recently she found him trying to overdose on pills. It was only while he was in the hospital that she found out he hasn't been paying any of their bills for the last 6 months and wasted all that money on drugs.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Thanks for listening guys, it really does help. I am considering moving but at the moment can't afford to, going to maybe pick up another job and start saving to get the hell out of here. The hardest part is feeling like nobody even remotely cares for long long periods of time. I've had broken bottles held to my neck and gone home incoherent from toxic chemicals. That #### weighs on me especially when my family consistently tries to rationalize the ways in which it's my fault.

At some point you just have to walk away. I'm guessing management isn't much help?

[AcGold]

Management is the opposite of help. I'm not going to get too much into it but there is some heavy nepotism/fraternal stuffngoing on. A lot of the harassment is from management.

[peter12]

If someone has been threatening you, you need to go to the police. Send in an anonymous report to Alberta Labour. You must have some recourse.

[AcGold]

There is the serious risk of losing my job for doing anything. They've fired people for nearly nothing, but, I am reaching the point of not caring. Anyways I am going to get the hell out of there ASAP, I appreciate you guys listening so much. Feels good to just get it off my chest because nobody else was willing to listen, I do feel better when people aren't coming at me like it's all my fault. I might just go work at Hortons or something, don't need the harassment anymore as it's starting to get to me, didn't realize how much until putting the words out there into the ether. Put a line out to a contact in Saskatchewan with SaskEnergy, he's looking, hopefully something shakes out.

[burn_this_city]

Get out of that toxic environment regardless of the financial implications.

[indes]

I could see it for sure. I'm finishing this project in February, about 2 weeks before my first child is due. My company just went from over 100 to under 40 in the last week and the stress is really starting to mount.

[CroFlames]

All I can say is hang in there everyone, and I hope that you can weather the storm until better days come.

ACGOLD, don't risk your health for a job. In the grand scheme of things, and in the simplest terms, your health is the most important thing brother.

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[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by AcGold

There is the serious risk of losing my job for doing anything. They've fired people for nearly nothing, but, I am reaching the point of not caring. Anyways I am going to get the hell out of there ASAP, I appreciate you guys listening so much. Feels good to just get it off my chest because nobody else was willing to listen, I do feel better when people aren't coming at me like it's all my fault. I might just go work at Hortons or something, don't need the harassment anymore as it's starting to get to me, didn't realize how much until putting the words out there into the ether. Put a line out to a contact in Saskatchewan with SaskEnergy, he's looking, hopefully something shakes out.

Good luck. We're all rooting for you. Hope that job opportunity shakes out for you. In the meanwhile, if there's anything we can help you with, please feel free to ask. I'm sure there are many in our CP community who can lend you a hand.

[OMG!WTF!]

My family has definitely done its part to boost these numbers. Two older brothers and a cousin have killed themselves this year, all mid fifties, all money issues. Probably some inherited crazy too, but mostly money. I didn't speak to any of them in any significant way beforehand. And I'm going to sound like an arrogant db now, but if money is an issue, it's definitely time to start thinking about what to do to make money without requiring an employer. This is no brag, subtle or otherwise, but I've been on my own for 18 years and have done everything from house cleaning and dog walking in the worst of times, to art agency and stock trading. The point of that is to say there is a level for everyone....if you need 100k plus there are options. If you just need to pay the bills, there are more options. At the very least but probably most importantly, it is a great way to battle depression and the feeling of being helpless. Don't let degrees, experience, salary expectations and the dogma that you have to have a job limit all the other possibilities. Apologies if this struck the wrong chord.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

My family has definitely done its part to boost these numbers. Two older brothers and a cousin have killed themselves this year, all mid fifties, all money issues. Probably some inherited crazy too, but mostly money. I didn't speak to any of them in any significant way beforehand. And I'm going to sound like an arrogant db now, but if money is an issue, it's definitely time to start thinking about what to do to make money without requiring an employer. This is no brag, subtle or otherwise, but I've been on my own for 18 years and have done everything from house cleaning and dog walking in the worst of times, to art agency and stock trading. The point of that is to say there is a level for everyone....if you need 100k plus there are options. If you just need to pay the bills, there are more options. At the very least but probably most importantly, it is a great way to battle depression and the feeling of being helpless. Don't let degrees, experience, salary expectations and the dogma that you have to have a job limit all the other possibilities. Apologies if this struck the wrong chord.

Sorry, man. So sorry.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by AcGold

There is the serious risk of losing my job for doing anything. They've fired people for nearly nothing, but, I am reaching the point of not caring. Anyways I am going to get the hell out of there ASAP, I appreciate you guys listening so much. Feels good to just get it off my chest because nobody else was willing to listen, I do feel better when people aren't coming at me like it's all my fault. I might just go work at Hortons or something, don't need the harassment anymore as it's starting to get to me, didn't realize how much until putting the words out there into the ether. Put a line out to a contact in Saskatchewan with SaskEnergy, he's looking, hopefully something shakes out.

If someone is threatening you physically, then you can talk to someone. Call Alberta Labour, start an anonymous investigation. There is compensation for valid issues.

[Kswiss]

Hey AC,

That sounds like a very bad situation. You need to get the F out of there ASAP. If you are at a menial job you should try and find something that is at least enjoyable. I am currently working something menial and am saving absolutely $0 per month. Enough to pay the bills and that's it. However, I am looking at the positives of the situation.

The people at my job are great. Listening to people with a drive to do more in life. (as opposed to people living in fear of losing their jobs). Learning to not want more "materialistic" things in life and enjoying the "free" things, like going for walks and free public events. (I have to literally save for years to go out and buy a nicer TV). Knowing who my real friends are.

Anyway, I am sure this situation is going to be short so I am enjoying as much as I can out of it. I consider this economic situation as a silver lining. A huge chance at discovering more of myself and my environment.

Long story short. Hang in there AC. Things will get better.

[polak]

How long until the crime rate goes up to match? Seems like crime would also go up in tough times. Maybe people aren't quite that desperate yet but I'd sure try robbing a bank before killing myself?

[FlamesAddiction]

Part of the trouble IMO is that Canada is in a situation that is new for many people. The globalized economy assumes that there is a mobile work force, but it ignores the human aspect of it.

Personally, I am lucky in a way that I have been transient pretty much my whole life barely stringing 5 straight years in any one place. With no ties to a community, I have always been ready to go where ever the work is, but I also understand how this is not for everyone.

It's easier in places where there are higher population densities and going to where the work is might only be a short move, but in Canada it often means not seeing people for a long time and losing touch.

I find it sad, but this is the world we are building for ourselves.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Part of the trouble IMO is that Canada is in a situation that is new for many people. The globalized economy assumes that there is a mobile work force, but it ignores the human aspect of it.

Personally, I am lucky in a way that I have been transient pretty much my whole life barely stringing 5 straight years in any one place. With no ties to a community, I have always been ready to go where ever the work is, but I also understand how this is not for everyone.

It's easier in places where there are higher population densities and going to where the work is might only be a short move, but in Canada it often means not seeing people for a long time and losing touch.

I find it sad, but this is the world we are building for ourselves.

Canadians have always been a mobile populace. Calgary in the 80s was full of people who had moved here from elsewhere, and that was back when flying was a lot more expensive and you might only go back to Ontario or Nova Scotia once every four years. People have been leaving Newfoundland in droves since it became part of Canada. In the 40s my grandpa moved from Saskatchewan to Ontario as a young man to find a better job. Only saw his family a handful of times after that. Even the initial immigrants to this country usually left family behind in Italy, the Ukraine, or China to find a better life.

[CalgaryFan1988]

ACGold,

Your situation sounds similar to what I went through 8-10 years ago. I ended up pushing everyone close to me away because they "didn't understand" and ended up moving to Alberta to get away from everything.

Long story short, if i could go back, I would talk to my wife/my family/friends instead of pushing everyone away and creating more problems. My parents would say "get out there and find work", It wasn't until years later that I told them everything I was going through and how little they helped. They had no idea how serious and deep my issues were.

Obviously different scenarios, but for me moving away was not the answer. At least not the way I did it (alone).

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by polak

How long until the crime rate goes up to match? Seems like crime would also go up in tough times. Maybe people aren't quite that desperate yet but I'd sure try robbing a bank before killing myself?

Was talking to someone at Enmax today, and apparently vaults and commercial businesses are experiencing a rash of break-ins lately due to copper theft.

Apparently it's pretty sophisticated too.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Canadians have always been a mobile populace. Calgary in the 80s was full of people who had moved here from elsewhere, and that was back when flying was a lot more expensive and you might only go back to Ontario or Nova Scotia once every four years. People have been leaving Newfoundland in droves since it became part of Canada. In the 40s my grandpa moved from Saskatchewan to Ontario as a young man to find a better job. Only saw his family a handful of times after that. Even the initial immigrants to this country usually left family behind in Italy, the Ukraine, or China to find a better life.

Moving isn't quite the same as being mobile. Back then, the chances are that they only had to do it once, and more than that was their choice. It still gave them a chance to put down roots and build a sense of community. Nowadays, it is normal for people to have to change jobs and careers a few times in their adult working lives. The days of moving somewhere and sticking with the same company for 20+ years are done for most people.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by polak

How long until the crime rate goes up to match?

They already have according to Edmonton Police. Stats are also available online you can compare with Calgary.