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Wormius · 12-01-2015, 11:05 PM

I don't know how true this is in Canada, but wouldn't the children and spouse of the current Prime Minister have some kind of security detail prescribed to them, whether they wanted it or not? I get that he might not have wanted it prior to becoming PM, but now that he is in office, does he even have much of a choice in the matter to have something in place given his position? I know we are a pretty safe country, but just thinking out loud here.

MrMastodonFarm · 12-01-2015, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

What you just said is 10 times worse than anything Dion has ever posted. Pathetic personal attack.

Blathering was probably the only thing personal, I'd edit that out. The rest is fine. Dion is only adding fuel to the fire with words like prick and random ad hominem attacks on Trudeau that don't add a thing.

The rest is fine IMO. Harsh? Yeah probably but it's not a personal attack.

zamler · 12-01-2015, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Blathering was probably the only thing personal, I'd edit that out. The rest is fine. Dion is only adding fuel to the fire with words like prick and random ad hominem attacks on Trudeau that don't add a thing.

The rest is fine IMO. Harsh? Yeah probably but it's not a personal attack.

I think JT is an entitled jerk and the worst part is he doesn't even realize it. He has the attitude of an idealistic 12 year old that is honestly scary.

And people need to stop defending JT's hypocrisy and worse heaping insults on people that are calling him out on it. You can be damn sure if Harper had done anything even remotely similar we'd never hear the end of it so let's stop with the sanctimony.

jayswin · 12-01-2015, 11:21 PM

In all honesty, I think there's two problems here, well besides the fact that everyone knew conservative CP'ers were going to come out swinging on Justin Trudeau, and good lord they're outdoing Liberal CP'ers in a major way compared to Harper's days, it's actually kind of awkward.

Anyways, these mega threads are kind of tough and annoying to follow, but in this case an even worse problem is it's kind of a free battleground for partisan posters to pop in and start saying whatever if they want to get something minor off their chest.

My suggestion would be to lock this thread as it's run it's course (it's original purpose was to act as a gamethread for the election) and force posters to start new, specific threads on Canadian politics. A) It'll force people to have an actual reason to start a discussion, rather than popping in here and flinging crap at each other, and B) It'll make it easier for the rest of us to follow political discussions in smaller, on topic threads.

MrMastodonFarm · 12-01-2015, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

I think JT is an entitled jerk and the worst part is he doesn't even realize it. He has the attitude of an idealistic 12 year old that is honestly scary.

And people need to stop defending JT's hypocrisy and worse heaping insults on people that are calling him out on it. You can be damn sure if Harper had done anything even remotely similar we'd never hear the end of it so let's stop with the sanctimony.

I'm not a big fan of Trudeau, at all.

This is trumped up nonsense.

Dion · 12-02-2015, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

What you just said is 10 times worse than anything Dion has ever posted. Pathetic personal attack.

It's why he's been in the sin bin so many times.

MrMastodonFarm · 12-02-2015, 12:37 AM

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It's why he's been in the sin bin so many times.

Glass house, Dion? IIRC this isn't your first account.

We're done.

RougeUnderoos · 12-02-2015, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

You can be damn sure if Harper had done anything even remotely similar we'd never hear the end of it so let's stop with the sanctimony.

IIRC, Harper has a family and he was The Boss for almost 10 years. Did he take advantage of the benefits of the job while he had it?

I'm all for stopping with the sanctimony, because sanctimony sucks, but if we're going to bash Trudeau for one thing that Harper never did, we should be sure Harper never did that thing.

Dion · 12-02-2015, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

IIRC, Harper has a family and he was The Boss for almost 10 years. Did he take advantage of the benefits of the job while he had it?

I'm all for stopping with the sanctimony, because sanctimony sucks, but if we're going to bash Trudeau for one thing that Harper never did, we should be sure Harper never did that thing.

Sure he took advantage of the benefits but you also have to remember Harper wasn't telling families in a similar income bracket they didn't deserve any government funding for child care. JT comes across as a hypocrite for using taxpayers money to pay for his nanny.

PepsiFree · 12-02-2015, 01:13 AM

Heard a rumour Trudeau won't be having Alberta Beef allowed on the menu his personal (taxpayer provided) chef is preparing.

Thoughts on the first of many official strikes against the heart of Canada? Shutting us out already.

Tinordi · 12-02-2015, 02:42 AM

I heard Trudeau had to get a new hair dresser than the one Harper used. Now his hair cuts cost about $25 more because of his longer hair and his focus on style. Is this a man that's actually willing to make the sacrifices necessary to run this country? Is Trudeau going to pass a haircut tax cut because otherwise he's a hypocrite.

Dion · 12-02-2015, 05:12 AM

You millennials don't know how bad it was under Trudeau Senior but you will soon find out.

Tinordi · 12-02-2015, 06:01 AM

Frankly, I'd much rather base my politics on something other than the fear and untethered outrage you're peddling.

EldrickOnIce · 12-02-2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

I heard Trudeau had to get a new hair dresser than the one Harper used. Now his hair cuts cost about $25 more because of his longer hair and his focus on style. Is this a man that's actually willing to make the sacrifices necessary to run this country? Is Trudeau going to pass a haircut tax cut because otherwise he's a hypocrite.

Good one! You are such a clever fellow.
I guess I must have missed where Justin campaigned on a platform of no subsidized haircuts for the wealthy.

longsuffering · 12-02-2015, 08:02 AM

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Nice to know taxpayers are on the hook for the nannies Justin has hired.
I had naively hoped he might be honourable, but had not expected it.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...es-report.html

It's hilarious that a couple nannies is the biggest complaint Team CPC has to offer.

It must be a nightmare for you guys. Trudeau's making all the right moves. He's responsive to legitimate concerns raised by the opposition or general public and he's already more popular with world leaders than wooden Stephen ever was.

Did Harper even once change an unpopular policy? Doubtful. Harper could never acknowledge the possibility he was wrong.

longsuffering · 12-02-2015, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I guess you haven't heard......

Never question what JT is doing.

Everyone bow to our almighty leader and worship the ground he's walking on

You mean in the way you did for the 9 years Harper was in power?

longsuffering · 12-02-2015, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zamler

You can be damn sure if Harper had done anything even remotely similar we'd never hear the end of it so let's stop with the sanctimony.

And you'd be here defending Harper to your dying breath. Talk about sanctimonious.

Fortunately there were plenty of REAL issues to criticize Harper on.

Fuzz · 12-02-2015, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by longsuffering

It's hilarious that a couple nannies is the biggest complaint Team CPC has to offer.

It must be a nightmare for you guys. Trudeau's making all the right moves. He's responsive to legitimate concerns raised by the opposition or general public and he's already more popular with world leaders than wooden Stephen ever was.

Did Harper even once change an unpopular policy? Doubtful. Harper could never acknowledge the possibility he was wrong.

The best thing Harper ever did was get rid of the penny. So their's that.

Looch City · 12-02-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

The best thing Harper ever did was get rid of the penny. So their's that.

Next, get rid of the nickel and round to nearest 10.

CliffFletcher · 12-02-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jayswin

This is going to be unbelievable. It's like a mirror image of what this board went through when Harper was in power, except now the roles of the posters are reversed.

Of course. That's what makes political partisans so hilarious. The best part is the same people who are defending Trudeau today would have been roasting Harper for the same thing. Being a dyed-in-the-wool partisan does strange things to peoples' brains, distorting incidents and sympathies to serve the we're always right and they're always wrong tribal narrative.