I wanted to make a comparison. If people are saying indians are offensive then so are cowboys. Cowboys and Indians are the same.
Are you being disingenuous for fun, or do you really look at it that simply? Based on your level of intelligence displayed overall on CP I'd imagine you're just trying to provoke a little and know how silly it is to put the names Stampeders, Cowboys and Redskins in the same sentence, and say they're either all offensive or not at all, and then boast that none are.
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Are you being disingenuous for fun, or do you really look at it that simply? Based on your level of intelligence displayed overall on CP I'd imagine you're just trying to provoke a little and know how silly it is to put the names Stampeders, Cowboys and Redskins in the same sentence, and say they're either all offensive or not at all, and then boast that none are.
I'm just asking the question, perhaps I'm way off.
So for example, I'm an Asian girl. I show up at a game in full Cowboy gear or full Indian gear.. is there a difference? Why don't white people find it insulting when I put on that outfit and yell YEEHAW! but it's insulting to the other way when I have full indian gear and go gee-gee-gee-gee-gee around a teepee. (i don't know how to type that sound!)
I really don't know.
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Every time something offensive comes up and when no one has a defence but they really feel like they should say "there are worse things in the world"
Like ok let's talk about all the missing and exploited aboriginal women in Canada. That a big enough issue for you to care about?
How did you start your post off with a good point that no issue is too small to discuss, and then mutated it into the murdered and rape of aboriginal women?
I'm just asking the question, perhaps I'm way off.
So for example, I'm an Asian girl. I show up at a game in full Cowboy gear or full Indian gear.. is there a difference? Why don't white people find it insulting when I put on that outfit and yell YEEHAW! but it's insulting to the other way when I have full indian gear and go gee-gee-gee-gee-gee around a teepee. (i don't know how to type that sound!)
I really don't know.
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If eskimos and redskins is offensive so is cowboys and stampeders..
In other words its not
Not sure if you are serious...if a team names itself after a group of people using a term that is derogatory (at best) it's offside and should be upgraded.
Cowboy and Stampeder aren't comparable at all...if the teams were called the Dallas Crackers or the Calgary Yokels you may have a point.
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The problem isn't that teams named after groups of people...its when they choose the names that are derogatory or appropriate the names without endorsement. The Florida Seminoles are an example where they asked the community for permission to use the name so no problem there.
I'm actually pretty disappointed the uproar over the Washington NFL Pigskins name died out...its pretty bad...and sad that the majority of the public thinks the dignity of a sports franchise > than people's dignity.
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The problem isn't that teams named after groups of people...its when they choose the names that are derogatory or appropriate the names without endorsement. The Florida Seminoles are an example where they asked the community for permission to use the name so no problem there.
I'm actually pretty disappointed the uproar over the Washington NFL Pigskins name died out...its pretty bad...and sad that the majority of the public thinks the dignity of a sports franchise > than people's dignity.
This is where i get confused. I thought the fighting souix were a supported name and people were sad to see it go.
I take back my comment earlier. Redskins is an awful name. They could easily change it to Redhawks and sell more jerseys!
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I'm just asking the question, perhaps I'm way off.
So for example, I'm an Asian girl. I show up at a game in full Cowboy gear or full Indian gear.. is there a difference? Why don't white people find it insulting when I put on that outfit and yell YEEHAW! but it's insulting to the other way when I have full indian gear and go gee-gee-gee-gee-gee around a teepee. (i don't know how to type that sound!)
I really don't know.
Last year for Halloween I put on a hard hat and some muddy steel-toed boots. No problems. I was a construction worker. It was a pretty lame costume, to tell you the truth.
This year, I put on a Mao suit, squinted my eyes, wore one of those conical hats and and bowed and said "ching chong ching" to everyone I met. It too was a lame costume, but I sure got a lot of nasty comments and even a punch in the nose.
"cowboy" is not a culture. It never was. It's a job. There was never a period of time when "everyone dressed and talked like that", whatever that means.
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Let's just assume for a second that Eskimo is just as offensive a term as Redskin (which I doubt is the case) and lets ignore the fact that the Eskimos name originated as an alliterative reference to Edmonton's weather and latitude.
How many people need to be offended in order to necessitate a name change? But I'm not talking about people like Psychnet or the Ottawa Citizen editorial board, who seem to be offended that people are offended. Google says that there are around 50,000 Inuit in Canada. Let's assume all of them are offended.
But that number wouldn't even fill Commonwealth Stadium. We're talking about 0.15% of Canadians. It seems to me that the number of offended persons falls short of a threshold that would require action.
And if I'm wrong and 50,000 people or 0.15% of offended Canadians is sufficient, shouldn't they have to show some sort of negative effect the word Eskimo has on their community?
Has the Edmonton CFL team name actually caused any harm? Does anyone really care? Does anyone in Canada actually use the word Eskimo in a non-football context? Will changing the name have a positive effect?
And if there are offended Inuit, maybe that's OK. It's a free country, you're allowed to get your knickers in a knot. Sometimes when someone gets offended, it's OK to just shrug your shoulders and say that no offense was meant and carry on as if nothing happened.
Let's just assume for a second that Eskimo is just as offensive a term as Redskin (which I doubt is the case) and lets ignore the fact that the Eskimos name originated as an alliterative reference to Edmonton's weather and latitude.
How many people need to be offended in order to necessitate a name change? But I'm not talking about people like Psychnet or the Ottawa Citizen editorial board, who seem to be offended that people are offended. Google says that there are around 50,000 Inuit in Canada. Let's assume all of them are offended.
But that number wouldn't even fill Commonwealth Stadium. We're talking about 0.15% of Canadians. It seems to me that the number of offended persons falls short of a threshold that would require action.
And if I'm wrong and 50,000 people or 0.15% of offended Canadians is sufficient, shouldn't they have to show some sort of negative effect the word Eskimo has on their community?
Has the Edmonton CFL team name actually caused any harm? Does anyone really care? Does anyone in Canada actually use the word Eskimo in a non-football context? Will changing the name have a positive effect?
And if there are offended Inuit, maybe that's OK. It's a free country, you're allowed to get your knickers in a knot. Sometimes when someone gets offended, it's OK to just shrug your shoulders and say that no offense was meant and carry on as if nothing happened.
Let's just assume for a second that Eskimo is just as offensive a term as Redskin (which I doubt is the case) and lets ignore the fact that the Eskimos name originated as an alliterative reference to Edmonton's weather and latitude.
How many people need to be offended in order to necessitate a name change? But I'm not talking about people like Psychnet or the Ottawa Citizen editorial board, who seem to be offended that people are offended. Google says that there are around 50,000 Inuit in Canada. Let's assume all of them are offended.
But that number wouldn't even fill Commonwealth Stadium. We're talking about 0.15% of Canadians. It seems to me that the number of offended persons falls short of a threshold that would require action.
And if I'm wrong and 50,000 people or 0.15% of offended Canadians is sufficient, shouldn't they have to show some sort of negative effect the word Eskimo has on their community?
Has the Edmonton CFL team name actually caused any harm? Does anyone really care? Does anyone in Canada actually use the word Eskimo in a non-football context? Will changing the name have a positive effect?
And if there are offended Inuit, maybe that's OK. It's a free country, you're allowed to get your knickers in a knot. Sometimes when someone gets offended, it's OK to just shrug your shoulders and say that no offense was meant and carry on as if nothing happened.
Wow dude, you simply can't look at it like that, full stop. That's a horrible line of thinking. Looking to a minority group and saying "Well, your opinion doesn't matter because you're only a small percentage of the population" is just awful and shows an egregious lack of understanding and empathy of minority groups.
This is the exact type of thinking that holds minority groups down for centuries, nobody stands up for them and there aren't enough of them to bring about change on their own. I'm not saying this in relation to the Eskimos name, as it's up for debate whether it should be changed, but in a general sense your post is just horrible logic.
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It's an offensive name to the Inuit people from all the academic research courses I've done in aboriginal sociology, so I am on board with it being changed.
