[Rumour] Travis Hamonic requests trade. Western Canada preferred destination

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Doubt Anahiem does the Flames or Oilers any favours unless they overpay.

Depends if the Flames or Oilers have what the Ducks want. Let's say the Ducks really want a scoring forward so they trade Fowler for Hamonic then flip Hamonic for Eberle?

The more we all talk about this I really don't see Calgary having even close to the assets to get it done considering the core 6 (Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett) are completely off the table. Even in a 3 team scenario I do not see the likes of Backlund, Hudler, Russell, Wideman being enough

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Depends if the Flames or Oilers have what the Ducks want. Let's say the Ducks really want a scoring forward so they trade Fowler for Hamonic then flip Hamonic for Eberle?

So the Ducks will help improve a division rival? I don't think so.

If they were willing to do that why not trade Fowler for Eberle?

IIRC, I read somewhere that the Ducks were only willing to trade Fowler to an Eastern conference team, presumably so they don't hurt their playoff chances.

[The Yen Man]

If I were the Ducks, I'd probably just trade Fowler for Hamonic and then keep Hamonic. Assuming he wants to play in California that is. If not, I agree with Sureloss, I wouldn't do it unless there's someone on the Jets or Oilers that they really covet. Who knows, maybe they really want to get Eberle to improve their scoring.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

So the Ducks will help improve a division rival? I don't think so.

If they were willing to do that why not trade Fowler for Eberle?

IIRC, I read somewhere that the Ducks were only willing to trade Fowler to an Eastern conference team, presumably so they don't hurt their playoff chances.

the only reason I can see them not trading Fowler for Everle is because the Oulers covet a Dman like Hamonic more and would be willing to pay the price of Eberle to get him.

Do you see the only way a 3 team trade working is if the third team wants a picks/prospects package and that team has a Dman the Islanders want?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If I were the Ducks, I'd probably just trade Fowler for Hamonic and then keep Hamonic. Assuming he wants to play in California that is. If not, I agree with Sureloss, I wouldn't do it unless there's someone on the Jets or Oilers that they really covet. Who knows, maybe they really want to get Eberle to improve their scoring.

Anaheim is further from Manitoba than NY so I can't see him leaving for the Ducks.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Anaheim is further from Manitoba than NY so I can't see him leaving for the Ducks.

He has no choice. The Isles can trade them wherever they want. He can play or refuse to report. I doubt he does the second part. He would arguably likely play worse in a place he doesn't want to be, but the Isles are doing him a favour by trying to trade him to a team of his choice.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MattyC

He has no choice. The Isles can trade them wherever they want. He can play or refuse to report. I doubt he does the second part. He would arguably likely play worse in a place he doesn't want to be, but the Isles are doing him a favour by trying to trade him to a team of his choice.

Nope. All Hamonic has to do to nix a trade to where he doesn't want to go is tell that team he is not going to report or will ask for another trade. No GM is going to give up assets for Hamonic if he says he won't be happy there.

It would be the whole Jeff Carter to Columbus situation all over again.

[memphusk]

Pout and get your way. I will never let my kids see this.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Pout and get your way. I will never let my kids see this.

Yeah, what kind of scum bag puts his family ahead of his job?

Such a terrible influence. I can't believe he isnt thinking about the example that sets.

Won't someone please think of the children??

[Poe969]

Im pretty sure he was talking about carter pouting about being in Columbus and not in a party city not hamonic and his family.

[memphusk]

Carter cried until he got his way. He's what's wrong with guaranteed contracts.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Carter cried until he got his way. He's what's wrong with guaranteed contracts.

Carter signed an 11 year extension with a team who traded him to a perennial bottomfeeder before it kicked in. Jeff Carter's cap hit is 5.2M until 2022 - he committed to the Flyers and they sent him into exile.

He comes back and promptly wins 2 Stanley Cups. Jeff Carter isn't what's wrong with guaranteed contracts. You're thinking of Yashin.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

Yeah, what kind of scum bag puts his family ahead of his job?

Such a terrible influence. I can't believe he isnt thinking about the example that sets.

Won't someone please think of the children??

I don't see it this way at all. My opinion granted.

The job is what keeps his family secure. If things are so bad that he needs to not work then give up the game. This scenario would be for something more convenient, that's all. He wants his pie and to eat it too.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by jaikorven

I don't see it this way at all. My opinion granted.

The job is what keeps his family secure. If things are so bad that he needs to not work then give up the game. This scenario would be for something more convenient, that's all. He wants his pie and to eat it too.

I've always hated this expression and its cake-based variants. A pie is not a goddamn decoration, it's food. Why the **** would anyone purchase a pie and not eat it?

[bax]

Originally Posted by jaikorven

I don't see it this way at all. My opinion granted.



The job is what keeps his family secure. If things are so bad that he needs to not work then give up the game. This scenario would be for something more convenient, that's all. He wants his pie and to eat it too.

Seems pretty arrogant giving the fact that you or anybody else has no idea what these family issues are.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nope. All Hamonic has to do to nix a trade to where he doesn't want to go is tell that team he is not going to report or will ask for another trade. No GM is going to give up assets for Hamonic if he says he won't be happy there.

It would be the whole Jeff Carter to Columbus situation all over again.

True, that was kind of my point is that the only card he holds is to not report. Even if he says he wouldn't to try and stop a team from acquiring him, I doubt he would. Either way, it wouldn't be a good move by a GM, but we've seen worse things.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by bax

Seems pretty arrogant giving the fact that you or anybody else has no idea what these family issues are.

Okay sort of a fair comment, however my life as it has been determines my opinions and for you to suggest that I'm arrogant in that opinion, is well, also arrogant.

This request for trade still shows that he wants to keep making the big money, but only where he wants. If the issue is that grave with his family then what is the difference of an extra few hours on the plane playing where he is under contract or literally giving up the job that is causing the distance concerns to be with his family. Again as I said, it was my opinion and a generation ago, yes the job did come first, as it is what puts a roof over your head and food on the table.

[Poe969]

So what about a three way deal involving the hurricanes? Aren't they rumored to be shopping Faulk?

Hudler, Falk to the islanders
Hamonic, Ward to the Flames
Backlund, Smid retained with salary, Hiller to the Hurricanes

I know it's not perfect and there is probably lots wrong with it but something along those lines.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Poe969

So what about a three way deal involving the hurricanes? Aren't they rumored to be shopping Faulk?

Hudler, Falk to the islanders
Hamonic, Ward to the Flames
Backlund, Smid retained with salary, Hiller to the Hurricanes

I know it's not perfect and there is probably lots wrong with it but something along those lines.

Hurricanes get nothing they want or need just wasted salary and Backlund??

[sureLoss]

Faulk is also the more valuable d-man.

If Faulk was available he would net a higher return than Hamonic would on the trade market.