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Old 11-23-2015, 12:33 PM   #21
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The difference is that there would be tens if not hundreds of thousands of farmers who could be considered criminals at this very moment by the very letter of the law, if it was in fact a .22 in the back seat.

The point is that the article references many laws but gives zero insight into the actual circumstances or scenario at question.

There are many "laws" that can carry a maximum sentance of 2 years in jail and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Very rarely are the maximums required or enforced.

I think that it is a click bate headline and nothing more at this point. Once there are more than zero details surrounding the incident(s) then feel free to bash away.

Just because you are afraid of, or don't understand why some people might have guns does not give you the right to abuse those that might want some due dillegence before casting him off as a "criminal". Are people who also get speeding or parking tickets also criminals?
I think the difference is that Farmers aren't dumbasses with their firearms. I would reckon most use them to protect their herds/flocks from wolves & coyotes (as well as general purpose hunting), and probably have one or two in the farmhouse for protection. They don't drive around with them for no apparent reason.

Although the details of this story are sparse, White was transporting firearms in an illegal manner, and possibly had illegal and/or restricted firearms with him. That is just plain stupid.
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Old 11-23-2015, 12:38 PM   #22
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The difference is that there would be tens if not hundreds of thousands of farmers who could be considered criminals at this very moment by the very letter of the law, if it was in fact a .22 in the back seat.

The point is that the article references many laws but gives zero insight into the actual circumstances or scenario at question.

There are many "laws" that can carry a maximum sentance of 2 years in jail and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Very rarely are the maximums required or enforced.

I think that it is a click bate headline and nothing more at this point. Once there are more than zero details surrounding the incident(s) then feel free to bash away.

Just because you are afraid of, or don't understand why some people might have guns does not give you the right to abuse those that might want some due dillegence before casting him off as a "criminal". Are people who also get speeding or parking tickets also criminals?
Yeah, the article paints a pretty clear picture of what he did. There's a lot of details.
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Old 11-23-2015, 12:44 PM   #24
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any chance he is trying out for an NFL team?
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The difference is that there would be tens if not hundreds of thousands of farmers who could be considered criminals at this very moment by the very letter of the law, if it was in fact a .22 in the back seat.

The point is that the article references many laws but gives zero insight into the actual circumstances or scenario at question.

There are many "laws" that can carry a maximum sentance of 2 years in jail and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Very rarely are the maximums required or enforced.
This is so true and I hate that line in a news article. Charged with shoplifting gum? It's a hybrid offence and you "face a maximum sentence of 2 years". But that would mean the Crown chooses to treat it as indictable and you get the most severe punishment.

However, unless he modified a 22 to be auto or something, it wouldn't be a "prohibited or restricted firearm". I imagine he had a handgun.

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Old 11-24-2015, 07:50 AM   #26
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Old 11-24-2015, 08:40 AM   #27
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I encourage some of you to look up the rifle ownership per capita in Alberta. Might surprise.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:41 PM   #28
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I encourage some of you to look up the rifle ownership per capita in Alberta. Might surprise.
I would further speculate that even then the numbers would be lower than actual.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:22 PM   #29
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Doesn't surprise me; guy looks guilty

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I would further speculate that even then the numbers would be lower than actual.
Those numbers can be a bit skewed. Lots (if not most) people who own a rifle own at least a couple. Heck, I know a guy who has hundreds (he collects, obviously).

ETA: in 2012 the average ownership was just over 4 guns per licensed individual.

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Maybe he was just goin chicken hunting. Find some good lease roads and snag some chickens.
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