Up to 2,300 Syrian refugees expected in Calgary over the next six to eight weeks

[T@T]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Guarantee you 99.9% of the Muslim world hates ISIS.

That number might be right in western countries but back in the spring there was a poll by Al Jazeer that estimated that 30 million Arab Muslims supported ISIS.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by T@T

That number might be right in western countries but back in the spring there was a poll by Al Jazeer that estimated that 30 million Arab Muslims supported ISIS.

On Bill Maher's show last night, it was mentioned that 8% of Turkey supports Isis. It worked out to be about 6 million people once you do to math.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

On Bill Maher's show last night, it was mentioned that 8% of Turkey supports Isis. It worked out to be about 6 million people once you do to math.

Not hard to believe at all.

[N-E-B]

I think some of you would be shocked at how much support IS actually has. It's ridiculous.

[Tinordi]

Turning our backs on those refugees will certainly make the support for ISIS go down.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Turning our backs on those refugees will certainly make the support for ISIS go down.

Asking for a realistic timeline and plan is not “turning our backs on people”, it's being responsible. If you look at all the polling that has been done, its getting pretty apparent that the majority of Canadians don't support the current timeline at all.

[Caged Great]

I want as many people as we can handle here in Canada as soon as possible. There should be no reason why we can't. However, there is no reason why you couldn't house them at a military base for a few months until all the proper vetting can occur. Try your best to get it done quickly, but do it properly. Having it all done by January 1st in a worthwhile aspiration, but it simply isn't humanly possible to process 500+ people per day for the next two months without making mistakes. Even if you bump it to February 1st or March 1st, that wouldn't be overly onerous on those that are having to stay in a shelter while things get processed.

[Bootsy]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I want as many people as we can handle here in Canada as soon as possible. There should be no reason why we can't. However, there is no reason why you couldn't house them at a military base for a few months until all the proper vetting can occur. Try your best to get it done quickly, but do it properly. Having it all done by January 1st in a worthwhile aspiration, but it simply isn't humanly possible to process 500+ people per day for the next two months without making mistakes. Even if you bump it to February 1st or March 1st, that wouldn't be overly onerous on those that are having to stay in a shelter while things get processed.

I agree, the government should just rid itself of a firm deadline and issue a statement saying they will be admitting the 25,000 refugees as quickly, efficiently, with as thorough and proper vetting as possible. There will be no shortcuts taken. I think if they do that then there will be little resistance by the public and as far as I'm concerned there is no reason not to do this.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

I agree, the government should just rid itself of a firm deadline and issue a statement saying they will be admitting the 25,000 refugees as quickly, efficiently, with as thorough and proper vetting as possible. There will be no shortcuts taken. I think if they do that then there will be little resistance by the public and as far as I'm concerned there is no reason not to do this.

I hope this is the outcome.

I think pushing the 25k goal as a must though early in the planning stages is a good idea. It's tough to get people to think of ways to do things better and more efficiently. Asking can we take 25k refugees by the end of the year would result in the answer from the people involved of NO.

Saying we are going to bring in 25k refugees and do it safely. Tell me what resources you need to do it gets a different response. Even if it ends up we can only process 5k per month that's still 5 times more than the stays quo.

So pushing difficult is a better way to get things done than just accepting the status quo. As long as you have a smart leader who is willing to adjust to more realistic goals when required.

[Joborule]

Canada's Syrian refugee plan limited to women, children and families

Originally Posted by CBC.ca

The federal government's much-anticipated Syrian refugee plan will limit those accepted into Canada to women, children and families only, CBC News has learned.

Sources tell CBC News that to deal with some ongoing concerns around security, unaccompanied men seeking asylum will not be part of the program.

[Looch City]

That's so sexist, women can be terrorists too.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by Joborule

Canada's Syrian refugee plan limited to women, children and families

There has to be a "because it's 2015" joke in there somewhere.

[Caged Great]

That should appease some of the concerns about terrorism. Only 1/8th of the jihadi forces are women. If you only bring in families, women and children, you are reducing your overall exposure significantly. It does help to calm some of the concerns of people that don't want them here in the first place.

Is it sexist, yes. However, it is only slightly sexist. Something around only 2% of all the refugees are single men between 18-40 anyway. Taking people from the other 98% of people shouldn't really be a big deal. It's only 500 men they aren't taking and instead are taking families and children. It isn't like there are only 25000 refugees out there and you're shutting out some to reduce the overall number.

Additionally, the families and children are more likely to be able to integrate and become important functioning members of Canadian society moving forward. That is also important. If you can convince some or most of the 25000 to stay afterwards, that is a beneficial thing economically for the country.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Something around only 2% of all the refugees are single men between 18-40 anyway. Taking people from the other 98% of people shouldn't really be a big deal. It's only 500 men they aren't taking and instead are taking families and children. It isn't like there are only 25000 refugees out there and you're shutting out some to reduce the overall number.

2% is the number of single males 18-40 already in the US.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

2% is the number of single males 18-40 already in the US.

Okay, I was mistaken. I thought that was the total # of them.

That makes more sense.

Not nearly as in favour of it then. Still it is an understandable precaution. Most of the problem people are the single men. Pragmatic choice instead of idealistic.

[Johnny199r]

The self righteousness of some Canadians saying "we need to take care of our own in need first" is ridiculous. How can anyone equate someone in Canada on social assistance to people fleeing being beheaded by Isis or blown up by government bombs? Sure some people in Canada are in tough spots, but compared to these Syrians, its still far more comfortable.

Additionally, people saying to those in support of the refugees "why don't you let some live in your house", yes, because I'm sure these complainers are opening up their homes to poor, disadvantaged Canadians they only suddenly seemed concerned about when they find out about Syrians refugees coming.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

Additionally, people saying to those in support of the refugees "why don't you let some live in your house", yes, because I'm sure these complainers are opening up their homes to poor, disadvantaged Canadians they only suddenly seemed concerned about when they find out about Syrians refugees coming.

So instead of letting them live in their houses, how much money and time do the champions of this plan plan to donate to the various agencies that are helping refugees?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

So instead of letting them live in their houses, how much money and time do the champions of this plan plan to donate to the various agencies that are helping refugees?

Thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours.

[Thor]

Arrgh, a Palestinian woman and her two young sons tried to rent an apartment here in Iceland, but the lady said no and when she pressed her as to why, she said "I don't rent to Muslims." Then pressed her some more she said "Paris"...

The worst part is this made the news, and the comment section overwhelmingly supports the old lady, saying its her right to choose who she rents to, totally overlooking the fact she openly discriminated against the woman based on her religion, which is against the law here in Iceland and pretty much any western nation.

Iceland has a serious racism problem, I hate when I see it rear its ugly head.

[Tiger]

Originally Posted by T@T

That number might be right in western countries but back in the spring there was a poll by Al Jazeer that estimated that 30 million Arab Muslims supported ISIS.

so 98.1% don't support it then