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[photon]

Yeah, too bad for you you lost the genetic lottery, pylon dictates you aren't pure enough, no help, time to die. Brutal.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by photon

Yeah, too bad for you you lost the genetic lottery, pylon dictates you aren't pure enough, no help, time to die. Brutal.

If your genetic pre-disposition is to rape children. Yes you deserve to die.

[FlamesAddiction]

I'm not a psychologist obviously, but just based on general knowledge gathered over time, I doubt there is a genetic pre-disposition. I would wager that most of it is environmental. I read somewhere before that most pedophiles themselves were abused as children. When stuff happens to you at the age your brain is "wiring" itself, the impulses can be planted beyond your control.

[polak]

castration.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not a psychologist obviously, but just based on general knowledge gathered over time, I doubt there is a genetic pre-disposition.

There most certainly is. Sexual attraction is one of the most basic parts of a person, some people are simply "wired wrong" and are attracted to underage girls/boys.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by pylon

No sorry, they deserve to be treated like scum. Child predators whether it's their fault or not, should be eradicated from society. I know it's fashionable to play the mental disorder card for every single horrible action nowadays.... basically just a form of blame shifting. I don't care if you cannot control it, I don't care if your born with it. You are still a disgusting piece of filth for having the thoughts, even if it is genetic. I would be the first guy to line up, and hit a button that would eliminate every single pedophile from existence, and I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt.

It is very easy to defend these filthy POS's, until you have been victimized by one.

Sorry, but this is a terrible post. Nobody is defending child predators. Nobody is saying that taking action if you have such an impulse is even marginally ok.

You are calling people that might have such an impulse yet refrain from doing anything with it scum. And that they deserve to be treated like garbage.

Frankly it is your post that is garbage calling it "fashionable" to play the mental health card for everything these days. Shows how little you actually understand about any of it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Pylon is doing what he normally does unfortunately. Get overly emotional about an issue and put the brain away.

It's a touchy issue to discuss but I'm sure there are people out there that are attracted to kids, teenagers, 20 year somethings, older people etc etc. We shouldn't punish by death the person that is attracted to preteen boys and girls and never acts on it.

Acting on it is the major line, obviously.

The man or woman who is attracted to preteens and never acts on it has my sympathy. Doubt given the choice they'd ever choose to have that attraction and unlike a normal straight or gay person they can't ever act on it because it would be disgusting and wrong to take advantage of a youth like that.

Getting emotional and saying they all deserve to die does nothing to help anything. It's not fashionable to play the mental disorder card, it what makes sense in 2015.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by zamler

There most certainly is. Sexual attraction is one of the most basic parts of a person, some people are simply "wired wrong" and are attracted to underage girls/boys.

You are making the leap that pedophilia is all about sexual attraction and isn't also an anti-social sadistic behaviour displayed by people who themselves are damaged in some way. I have read that for some, it is about reverting back to childhood. Take that Duggar family or whatever they are called. The one son abused his siblings, but if he was raised in a normal household, would he have had the same tendencies? I can't say obviously, but I tend to believe that weird people raise weird kids.

The truth is, there are probably a number of contributing factors, but I don't think there is a consensus.

[pylon]

Awesome.

CP has gone full dissapoint, and now sympathizes with pedophiles. Just when you thought this place couldn't have gotten any more liberal.

I can guarantee, any of you 'woe is pedophile' crowd would not be taking this stance if you or a loved one had been victimized by one. Period.

[Jason14h]

Won't someone think of the pedophiles.

'Mandatory GIF'

[Cain]

Originally Posted by pylon

Awesome.

CP has gone full dissapoint, and now sympathizes with pedophiles. Just when you thought this place couldn't have gotten any more liberal.

I can guarantee, any of you 'woe is pedophile' crowd would not be taking this stance if you or a loved one had been victimized by one. Period.

How narrow minded. The only one disappointing is you. My life has been greatly touched by one. That still doesn't make what you posted earlier any better.

I am sorry that you have been clearly impacted by a monster as well. Still doesn't make it right to condemn all people whether or not they have taken action or not. The action clearly sets them apart from others. Nobody has any sympathy for those who have crossed that line and ruined peoples lives.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by pylon

Awesome.

CP has gone full dissapoint, and now sympathizes with pedophiles. Just when you thought this place couldn't have gotten any more liberal.

I can guarantee, any of you 'woe is pedophile' crowd would not be taking this stance if you or a loved one had been victimized by one. Period.

So 2 people countered your post with some rational considerations, and you come out with even more hyperbole about the entire forum being pro-pedophile.

It is almost being fashionable to have these extreme black and white viewpoints on every topic.

[Trailer Fire]

112 posts in the thread and not one about "Extra Mayo"? I am disappointed.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

112 posts in the thread and not one about "Extra Mayo"? I am disappointed.

Did you know at subway you can get either a 6" or a 12" sub?

Penises can sometimes be 6" or 12" as well

[T@T]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Just, what?

Originally Posted by pylon

No sorry, they deserve to be treated like scum. Child predators whether it's their fault or not, should be eradicated from society. I know it's fashionable to play the mental disorder card for every single horrible action nowadays.... basically just a form of blame shifting. I don't care if you cannot control it, I don't care if your born with it. You are still a disgusting piece of filth for having the thoughts, even if it is genetic. I would be the first guy to line up, and hit a button that would eliminate every single pedophile from existence, and I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt.

It is very easy to defend these filthy POS's, until you have been victimized by one.

Everyone seems to be giving you the gears over this post, As someone who lost a great childhood friend to suicide because of one of these freaks I would just like to say I agree with your remarks.

P.S. I think even it's a little on the soft side.

[Yoho]

The only thing left for this thread is to bait posters into infractions and suspensions.


Jared got what he deserved I think we can all agree in that.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by T@T

Everyone seems to be giving you the gears over this post, As someone who lost a great childhood friend to suicide because of one of these freaks I would just like to say I agree with your remarks.

P.S. I think even it's a little on the soft side.

So killing innocent people who have not transgressed in any way is "a little on the soft side"? Attributing fault and laying judgment based on thougts/DNA makeup is ok and not even harsh enough?

Come on. Nobody is defending actual predators. I almost have to believe you guys are trolling at this point. I think everyone is on board with harsh consequences for a child (frankly any age honestly) sexual assault. I think MMF was right in that it is probably just an overly emotional issue, but lets not get too carried away.

[Antithesis]

nm, not worth it

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not a psychologist obviously, but just based on general knowledge gathered over time, I doubt there is a genetic pre-disposition. I would wager that most of it is environmental. I read somewhere before that most pedophiles themselves were abused as children. When stuff happens to you at the age your brain is "wiring" itself, the impulses can be planted beyond your control.

While that can definitely be part of it, if it was the major factor, we'd have a lot more pedophilies. Recent studies and surveys have about 33 percent of females abused as a child/teen and 25 percent of men. Obviously there aren't that many pedos.

Everything that I've read is that the brain stops maturing sexually at an early point in these individuals and the age they are attracted to is pretty much where it stopped.

Re pylon's outburst: I dont think anyone here is saying woe to the abusers, simply trying to understand it. As MMF put it, acting on the urge is where it seperates they good from the bad. I agree, it would absolutely suck to have those urges. But an adult should be able to understand the point of consent and the fact that they could really mess up a life. A lot of lives in fact. Not only the victim, but the victim's families, friends, etc.

I would feel bad for someone with that problem. However, I would lose all sympathy for those who act on it. There's no excuse.

[Russic]

There are examples of kids who are horribly abused and come out of it with unnatural behaviours and urges, and that's where things get a bit trickier for me. I understand telling a sex offender they deserve death... but would you feel the same about a victim who ends up on the same path?

There's a podcast called the Mental Illness Happy Hour that I listen to every now and then. It's absolutely phenomenal, but it's also extremely heavy and not something I'm always in the mood for. I'll never forget one where he was interviewing a guy who was drafted to Vietnam. One day he ended up killing several women and children with a grenade due to bad intel. Understandably he came back destroyed, and you end up spending 50% of the show just wanting to give the guy a hug. Then his stories get progressively darker until he's in a territory where you view him in a much different light.

It was very odd to suddenly humanize what I'd generally see as a monster. I realize fully that not all offenders were victims themselves. Sometimes they have extraordinarily typical childhoods. Regardless, it's difficult for me to see it as black and white.