[Rumour] Travis Hamonic requests trade. Western Canada preferred destination

[polak]

Oooo Hudler and Gio for Hamonic +?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Klefbom is also 22 years old eating up crazy minutes and still producing decent defensive coverage and awareness that will only get better with age, not to mention a solid 10 points in 18 games to start this season. I'd take his 22 year old defending skills over the 22 year old defender we have currently.

Eberle fits the bill with his scoring touch that would compliment Tavares' playmaking abilities. Give him someone like that to play with, he won't look so overpaid.

That's a good deal long term for the Isles but they are throwing the towel in on this season if they replace their top defender with Klefbom.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Hudler+Russell is probably the best we could (or should) do, keeping the Isles needs in mind. Someone else will beat that offer though.

Flames likely have to throw in a prospect at least or a conditional pick as that is 2 rentals for a 25 year old top 4 D

That is like the Canucks saying they would trade Vrbata and Hamhuis for Brodie.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by browna

Gotta think that the agent/Snow are throwing "Western Canada" in there as a carrot to Dreger etc, because the one team out West that the Isles were dealing with behind the scenes to this point, is dragging its feet.

All of a sudden get a few other teams in the mix publicly and it may get the original team the Isles were dealing with a push to get the deal done.

I think it is more likely one of the teams talking to the Islanders leaked it and the Western Canada thing is just a natural assumption to make if the reason he wants out is personal.

By this coming out it weakens the Islanders' position in trades and it sounds like Hamonic didn't tell his teammates yet and wants to explain it first before he comments on it (i.e. doesn't sound like a guy who wanted it to leak)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Klefbom is also 22 years old eating up crazy minutes and still producing decent defensive coverage and awareness that will only get better with age, not to mention a solid 10 points in 18 games to start this season. I'd take his 22 year old defending skills over the 22 year old defender we have currently.

Eberle fits the bill with his scoring touch that would compliment Tavares' playmaking abilities. Give him someone like that to play with, he won't look so overpaid.

You must be assessing Hamilton's defensive skills solely on this young season, which is far too small a sample size to be useful.

Klefbom isn't close to Hamilton, either in what he has done as a pro so far, or with respect to top-end potential going forward.

[Enoch Root]

I don't see any way that the Flames consider Giordano, or ask him to waive. Zero chance IMO.

I would think the one asset the Flames have that would get it done (other than the young core guys) would be the 2016 1st.

Either that or some kind of package that was enticing enough, something like Hudler, Russell and Hickey? Doubt that does it though.

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You must be assessing Hamilton's defensive skills solely on this young season, which is far too small a sample size to be useful.

Klefbom isn't close to Hamilton, either in what he has done as a pro so far, or with respect to top-end potential going forward.

Assessing it not only on this season but also the countless Bruins pages i scrolled through from last year confirming that Hamilton is in fact swiss cheese in his own end. Time will tell but right now, IMO, Hamilton isn't close to Klefbom.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't see any way that the Flames consider Giordano, or ask him to waive. Zero chance IMO.

I would think the one asset the Flames have that would get it done (other than the young core guys) would be the 2016 1st.

Either that or some kind of package that was enticing enough, something like Hudler, Russell and Hickey? Doubt that does it though.

I agree it is unlikely the Flames trade Giordano. He is our captain.

But he doesn't have a NTC. The one from his last contract doesn't apply in the last season and his next contract hadn't kicked in.

It is also a trade that makes a lot of sense for both teams. Flames get a young top 4 on a great contract. The Islanders improve this season. Something that will be difficult for them to do considering the circumstances around this leak.

[adc]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Klefbom is also 22 years old eating up crazy minutes and still producing decent defensive coverage and awareness that will only get better with age, not to mention a solid 10 points in 18 games to start this season. I'd take his 22 year old defending skills over the 22 year old defender we have currently.

Eberle fits the bill with his scoring touch that would compliment Tavares' playmaking abilities. Give him someone like that to play with, he won't look so overpaid.

You or I would be eating up crazy minutes (not sure 21 minutes is crazy) if we were on the Oilers and I haven't seen even mediocre defensive coverage from him let alone decent.

The Islanders already have Okoposo who actually plays defense, is very physical and has shown chemistry with Tavares so why trade for Eberle when they can just give Okposo that money and use Hamonic to get a solid asset?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames likely have to throw in a prospect at least or a conditional pick as that is 2 rentals for a 25 year old top 4 D

That is like the Canucks saying they would trade Vrbata and Hamhuis for Brodie.

Brodie > Hamonic
Hudler > Vrbata
Hamhuis >> Russell

I see your point, we'd probably have to add. From the Isles POV though it would bolster their forward ranks significantly. Russell is a significant step down from Hamonic though. There's probably not a deal to be had here unless Calgary overpays.

[adc]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Assessing it not only on this season but also the countless Bruins pages i scrolled through from last year confirming that Hamilton is in fact swiss cheese in his own end. Time will tell but right now, IMO, Hamilton isn't close to Klefbom.

You're right in that comment, Hamilton is much further ahead of him.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Assessing it not only on this season but also the countless Bruins pages i scrolled through from last year confirming that Hamilton is in fact swiss cheese in his own end. Time will tell but right now, IMO, Hamilton isn't close to Klefbom.

He wasn't swiss cheese last year and he isn't this year.

There's a reason basically every Bruins fan on the internet the day he was traded was ticked off....he's a decent young d-man with a pretty huge ceiling. I think you're overrating Kelfbom a fair amount here.

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by adc

You or I would be eating up crazy minutes (not sure 21 minutes is crazy) if we were on the Oilers and I haven't seen even mediocre defensive coverage from him let alone decent.

The Islanders already have Okoposo who actually plays defense, is very physical and has shown chemistry with Tavares so why trade for Eberle when they can just give Okposo that money and use Hamonic to get a solid asset?

Okposo is the real deal. Who's next in the top 4? Lee, Bailey, Nelson. Eberle would knock any of these guys down the depth chart. You can't say he wouldn't be a solid asset to trade for. Do I think they will trade for Eberle? No, they need to replace Hamonic.

Re: Klefbom. 21 minutes or 24? Its called a game log. I'd take Klefbom, but thats just me. Don't have to be such a homer you can't twist your head on straight.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't see any way that the Flames consider Giordano, or ask him to waive. Zero chance IMO.

Does Giordano even have an NTC in his current deal? I seem to remember that he didn't have one for some reason.

You're right though, the optics would be terrible so they probably wouldn't even go there. Better to suffer for 6 years with a millstone contact than hurt someone's feelings. Not trying to be snippy, but I honestly think the Flames would be too 'honorable' to do it, even if it was the right move. If we were the Flyers, Giordano would already be traded lol.

[jayswin]

Pretty sure Giordano doesn't have a NTC until July 1st, 2016.

[adc]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Okposo is the real deal. Who's next in the top 4? Lee, Bailey, Nelson. Eberle would knock any of these guys down the depth chart. You can't say he wouldn't be a solid asset to trade for. Do I think they will trade for Eberle? No, they need to replace Hamonic.

Re: Klefbom. 21 minutes or 24? Its called a game log. I'd take Klefbom, but thats just me. Don't have to be such a homer you can't twist your head on straight.

Klefblom has scored 33 points in his whole NHL career, Hamilton outscored that total last year alone.

Klefblom has struggled to crack the Edmonton Oilers the worst team of the past 5 seasons. Hamilton played 3 seasons, including top 4 minutes for a Bruins team that was a consistent play-off team coming off 2 Cup trips.

Its not being a homer its looking at what each guy has done. Hamilton has done a lot more than Klefblom on a lot better teams. He has proven he is a quality NHLer, Klefblom is still trying to establish that.

[Weitz]

Why would they trade a 24 year old on a great contract for a 30+ on a long questionable contract?

[browna]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I think it is more likely one of the teams talking to the Islanders leaked it and the Western Canada thing is just a natural assumption to make if the reason he wants out is personal.

By this coming out it weakens the Islanders' position in trades and it sounds like Hamonic didn't tell his teammates yet and wants to explain it first before he comments on it (i.e. doesn't sound like a guy who wanted it to leak)

If the request came before the season as per your OP, and talks have been going on for 6+ weeks, even before the season started, I think the Isles already are in a position of weakness, as they've exhausted most possibilities through the usual behind the scenes channels, with nobody meeting the price.

They (and or the agent, who are the usual leaky sources that insiders like Dreger use and get used by) now just want to get this over and done with as soon as possible/before Christmas, so let it out for public consumption. As said, pressuring a team that they are close in trading with, or opening it up to a bunch of trades for a potential 3 way deal.

This is now going to cause a distraction to the team and the player, so I think this is a calculated risk by the Isles and/or the agent to push this issue to conclusion rather then being stuck in limbo.

[Jacks]

It's been said multiple times but Gio does not have a NTC this year.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Locke

Wow. This must be the first time Edmonton and Winnipeg have been near the top of a player's 'Desired Trade' list as opposed to being at the top of their 'No Trade Under Any Circumstances Ever' list.

came here to post this. lol.