[Rumour] Travis Hamonic requests trade. Western Canada preferred destination

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The thing with Hamilton is the reason, he's too young to be relied on as a legit top pairing guy in the next year or two in the same way Brodie couldn't be relied on it until the end of last year either

Says who? Hamilton was a top pairing 4 guy on a President's trophy winner and was a top pairing guy last year. Giordano is a top pairing guy right now.

I like Hamonic, but what we'd give up for him is probably more value than pepople realize.

When you look at the Hawks, who are at this point the blueprint, all of their key guys are within a couple of years of each other, with the defensive side of the equation being a couple of years old.

Keith was 26, Seabrook was 24 and Hjalmarsson was 22 when they won it all in 2010.

Brodie turns 26 next season, Hamilton turns 24 in two seasons, and I don't know who our Hjalmarsson is yet but Gio is a hell of a player and old age isn't going to totally nuke his effectiveness.

[d_phaneuf]

already dreading Sportsnet calling it the McDavid effect if the Oilers trade for him

[sureLoss]

Interesting Trivia:

The 2008 53rd OA pick used by the Islanders to draft Hamonic was originally the Ducks; traded to the Oilers in the trade that sent Pronger to the Ducks.

Oilers then traded the pick to the Islanders for AHLer Allan Rourke and 2008 73rd OA. The Oilers needed the 73rd OA pick so they could sign Dustin Penner to an offer sheet.

The Islanders had previously acquired 73rd OA from the Oilers in a deal that sent that pick and Marc Andre Bergeron to the Islanders for Denis Grebeshkov.

Just an epic history of Oiler failure attached to the pick that drafted Hamonic.

[driveway]

I would trade Russel + Wideman and throw in, like a pick or something to get Hamonic.

NYI can fit them both in under the cap after moving Hamonic, we get out from under Wideman's contract next year, add a young RHD with great possession numbers.

NYI gets two roster players, adding to a fairly deep defense and encouraging a good team to take a shot this year.

I think the Isles would rather get a player like Nurse, but oh man would I be very happy to get Hamonic here.

Brodie-Hamilton
Gio-Hamonic
Me-A potato.

That's a pretty solid defense right there.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by OilerFan4Life
@DarrenDreger 56s56 seconds ago
Credit to @FriedgeHNIC on Hamonic story. He has family concerns in West Canada and requested a move before the season...


OH DEAR GOODNESS....IF CALGARY BEATS US TO THE PUNCH AGAIN

[JurassicTunga12]

Not sure what we could give up. Maybe something like Russell, Wideman 50% retained, Wotherspoon and a lottery protected 1st?

Maybe they'd have some interest in Tyler Wotherspoon since I believe they have his brother Parker in their organization.

Tough trade to put together, but I hope Treliving can pull it off. I mean, a top four of:

Giordano - Brodie
Hamonic - Hamilton
?

Yes please.

[The Fonz]

Wideman @ 50% retained
Russell
2nd round pick

Hamonic
+ cap dump

[adc]

Hard to see a fit for Calgary.

I can't see any reason NYI would have any interest in Wideman or Russell. Wideman is older, more expensive and much worse. Russell is a UFA with 1 good season and a bunch of mediocre to bad seasons.

Edmonton is the obvious fit as this is exactly what they need. They don't have a perfect fit in a one for one defenseman swap as I wouldn't give up Nurse for Hamonic.

Eberle + Klefblom is an enticing offer I would think but that adds a lot of money to an Islanders team that would seem to have an internal cap.

[hockey.modern]

14 were at the Flames game last night. Maybe some NYI Scouts were there?

Bob Stauffer t@Bob_Stauffer:
There are pro scouts from 16 different NHL organizations represented at Rexall Place tonight. Abnormally high amount.

[polak]

If the asking price is Nurse then it'll take Gio +

I'm still okay with it. Gio + Backlund? We might technically "lose" that trade at face value but if you consider Backlund is becoming a bit expendable and Gio's contract and mature age... It starts to look better.

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

14 were at the Flames game last night. Maybe some NYI Scouts were there?

Ugh, a scout watching Gio play yesterday would probably enact a veto or something

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by united

E:60 on Hamonic losing his father at a young age, and the work he does off the ice to help children finding themselves in a similar situation.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11915798

Damn, Hamonic seems like a legit hero for some of the stuff he does off the ice.

It would be sweet if the Flames could find a way to make him fit in without giving up too much.

[DomeFoam]

Not sure why people suggest Eberle + Klefbom when it would probably take just one of them to land Hamonic. Oiler or not Eberle is a talented scorer and Klefbom is the silver lining on that ####ty d corps

[sureLoss]

Islanders don't need Backlund with Tavares Nielsen Grabovski Nelson Lee and Strome all capable of playing centre in their top9

Their need at forward is top line wingers to play with Tavares

[adc]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Not sure why people suggest Eberle + Klefbom when it would probably take just one of them to land Hamonic. Oiler or not Eberle is a talented scorer and Klefbom is the silver lining on that ####ty d corps

Klefblom is a terrible defender that is a 4/5 on a good team not really much of a replacement for Hamonic that the Isles are looking for.

Eberle is a soft, one way overpaid 2nd line winger. Not really what the Isles would be looking for either.

Perhaps both added together is a little bit of an overpay but no way should those guys alone get Hamonic. To me the Oilers should be fine overpaying a bit as Hamonic fits exactly the type of player they should be looking to add to their roster. If I were the Oilers I would try to replace Eberle with Yakupov instead and the Isles may prefer that if they think they can salvage Yak because of Eberle's terrible deal.

[DomeFoam]

Hamonic has to be a attractive target for the flames. The combination of a big, truculuent responsible d-man with his amazing philanthropy off the ice probably has Burkie salivating

[Vinny01]

Reading the Islanders thread on FB they want a Dman in return.

Myers makes the most sense. Gets save nearly $2M a year on the cap to give them more flexibility and the Islanders get a great player in return.

Winnipeg could probably get a + since they are in the drivers seat.

Edmonton doesn't really have the Dman unless they want to part with Nurse. Even then the Islbders likely want someone more proven.

Vancouver just doesn't have the pieces unless the Islanders have interest in Edler? That deal makes some sense.

Calgary could offer up a D pairing of Russell and Wideman along with a prospect. Not sure if the Islanders have interest in those players.

From a Flames fan perspective I would have never thought we would need another D coming into this season. Looking at where the season has gone another top 4 D wouldn't hurt.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Hudler+Russell is probably the best we could (or should) do, keeping the Isles needs in mind. Someone else will beat that offer though.

[Erick Estrada]

I simply don't see how the Oilers make a good trade if the Islanders expect a competent replacement for Hamonic. The Jets and Flames are the two Western Canadian teams that have the assets on the blue line to pull it off.

I would trade Giordano straight across for him. Saves the Flames cap room and rids the team of what will be a bad contract in three years. As for the Islanders I imagine their mandate is to win now and Gio can help there better than any defenseman most teams could offer.

[browna]

Gotta think that the agent/Snow are throwing "Western Canada" in there as a carrot to Dreger etc, because the one team out West that the Isles were dealing with behind the scenes to this point, is dragging its feet.

All of a sudden get a few other teams in the mix publicly and it may get the original team the Isles were dealing with a push to get the deal done.

[DomeFoam]

Originally Posted by adc

Klefblom is a terrible defender that is a 4/5 on a good team not really much of a replacement for Hamonic that the Isles are looking for.

Eberle is a soft, one way overpaid 2nd line winger. Not really what the Isles would be looking for either.

Perhaps both added together is a little bit of an overpay but no way should those guys alone get Hamonic. To me the Oilers should be fine overpaying a bit as Hamonic fits exactly the type of player they should be looking to add to their roster. If I were the Oilers I would try to replace Eberle with Yakupov instead and the Isles may prefer that if they think they can salvage Yak because of Eberle's terrible deal.

Klefbom is also 22 years old eating up crazy minutes and still producing decent defensive coverage and awareness that will only get better with age, not to mention a solid 10 points in 18 games to start this season. I'd take his 22 year old defending skills over the 22 year old defender we have currently.

Eberle fits the bill with his scoring touch that would compliment Tavares' playmaking abilities. Give him someone like that to play with, he won't look so overpaid.