Up to 2,300 Syrian refugees expected in Calgary over the next six to eight weeks

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by polak

Godwin Warning

The people posting this anti-refugee rhetoric are similar to the anti-semitic twats from Hitlers third reich.

Right. Because you've seen people advocating sending Syrian refugees to death camps and gas chambers right?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Right. Because you've seen people advocating sending Syrian refugees to death camps and gas chambers right?

When I get off work tonight, if it pleases you, I will do a massive (spoilered) dump of anonymized comments/posts/photos/memes from my Facebook feed.

There are many posts of people literally owning their racism, calling for glass parking lots involving civilians (and acknowledging it), and other interesting stances on the issue.

Most of these posts are by riggers and the like, but a few are from some white-collar folks (some of whom are [white] immigrants themselves).

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by polak

Godwin Warning

The people posting this anti-refugee rhetoric are similar to the anti-semitic twats from Hitlers third reich.

I read this as tweets and was incredibly confused for a minute.

Also, no they're not. They're just garden variety racists, some of them, and some of them are confused scared people I guess.

[polak]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Right. Because you've seen people advocating sending Syrian refugees to death camps and gas chambers right?

No just let them die in Syria. All good.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by polak

No just let them die in Syria. All good.

Or literal squalor in Turkey for the last 3 years.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by polak

No just let them die in Syria. All good.

Well I suppose there are some terribly misinformed people out there on your FB if they think the refugees are the ones running the islamic state, not ISIS.

So if social media racists actually want all the refugees murdered, well then yes I suppose they are as bad as you say. But there is still a major distinction between keyboard racists and actual nazis who carried out the atrocities.

I for one think there is only one way to deal with the islamic state and it kinda is along the lines of a ground invasion and utter annihilation of their political structure. Isis, I daresay are modern day nazis.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Or literal squalor in Turkey for the last 3 years.

Actually, I was in Istanbul in late October and there were many beggars (children, women, men) saying they were Syrian refugees.

But I couldn't tell if they were telling the truth or if they were locals taking advantage of the situation.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

When I get off work tonight, if it pleases you, I will do a massive (spoilered) dump of anonymized comments/posts/photos/memes from my Facebook feed.

There are many posts of people literally owning their racism, calling for glass parking lots involving civilians (and acknowledging it), and other interesting stances on the issue.

Most of these posts are by riggers and the like, but a few are from some white-collar folks (some of whom are [white] immigrants themselves).

All these have made me realize the joke "what are the three hardest years of a welders life? grade 3" is really acurate. All the welders I know are the ones posting this stuff and they are really showing it doesn't take a grade 3 education to become a welder.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Plot twist: This guy saying Japanese internment was a good thing is actually a Democrat

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I've found it very easy in my life to never discuss my opinions on politics and religion with family and friends.

I make a point to discuss it.

If enough people speak up, people will realize their way of thinking is not normal or accepted.

It used to be ok to make gay jokes on message boards like this one. People sat on the sidelines uncomfortably saying nothing. At some point people started speaking up, and it's just not accepted anymore.

I think things are moving the same way with the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discussions.

I'm not going to shut up until things have changed. If I lose relationships with some racists or xenophobes, meh.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Plot twist: This guy saying Japanese internment was a good thing is actually a Democrat

Didn't the internment lock up something like literally zero spies? Surprised he didn't suggest that Muslims should wear a yellow badge too...

[polak]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Well I suppose there are some terribly misinformed people out there on your FB if they think the refugees are the ones running the islamic state, not ISIS.

So if social media racists actually want all the refugees murdered, well then yes I suppose they are as bad as you say. But there is still a major distinction between keyboard racists and actual nazis who carried out the atrocities.

My comment you quoted was more of an off hand remark cause I didn't have time to write a proper explanation but I was more so referring to the average citizen who just hated or was fearful of jews.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I make a point to discuss it.

If enough people speak up, people will realize their way of thinking is not normal or accepted.

It used to be ok to make gay jokes on message boards like this one. People sat on the sidelines uncomfortably saying nothing. At some point people started speaking up, and it's just not accepted anymore.

I think things are moving the same way with the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discussions.

I'm not going to shut up until things have changed. If I lose relationships with some racists or xenophobes, meh.

Wonderful post.

+1

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Plot twist: This guy saying Japanese internment was a good thing is actually a Democrat

Only a plot twist if you believe the Dems are anything but right-of-centre.

Disgusting ####.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The rules are simple: intolerance based on inherent unchangeable, benign qualities like skin colour or sexual orientation is always bad (or I can't think of a situation where it's good). Intolerance of ideas is acceptable, and where that intolerance manifests itself as criticism or challenging viewpoints, that intolerance is always good.

That's the distinction.

There is, of course, the more challenging phenomenon of identity politics where benign qualities becoming symbolic of varying sets of questionable ideas. It is just as improper to align someone's sexual orientation or race with a concrete set of ideological beliefs.

That said, I think your distinction is important, and holds up, in a liberal democratic or republican country.

[PsYcNeT]

Coming soon to a Facebook near you:

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Good effort but completely wrong as if you truly are intolerant you would have compassion for everyone including those that are intolerant. It's kind of why we are seeing a lot of people in today's society like Fire of the Phoenix which is a form of extremism.

Hyperbole much? I didn't say I disowned my son. I said I'm going to stop dealing with certain hate-filled people, mostly people who were on the fringes of my life to begin with. Just because I choose not to listen to their hate-filled garbage, it doesn't make me a bigot. I'm not to sure you know what the word means to be honest.

Ever consider that there is more context to my story that I didn't add because I'm writing a post and not a novel? Some of these people have pissed me off for years, this was just the final straw. I have tried 'debating' with many of these people in the past but I haven't gotten anywhere. Why should I subject myself to their vile ramblings any longer? At some point, enough is enough. There are only so many hours in the day, days in the week, and weeks in the year... WHY should I spend one second of MY time associating with people whose views make me uncomfortable?

I had one guy (best friend's dad) confront me where I work over a post my wife put on facebook. I'm not sure which one it was, but the jist was that we shouldn't vilify all muslims because 1% are evil. I brought up the KKK as it relates to white people and he completely flew off the handle and was yelling at me in pubic, at my place of work. Why should I try to 'educate' a person like this? Every time I'm around him he makes comments that make me uncomfortable... should I just take it?

Another person at work said we shouldn't allow a single refugee in if it meant that even one Canadian MIGHT die. I countered with the argument that a life is a life, it doesn't matter where the person was born. I said 99.9% of these people are just desperate for help, should we just turn them away? He said yes. I told him that I didn't think that was a very Christ-like opinion. He's devoutly religious and didn't like being called out on it and threatened to complain about me (he didn't).

I posed a hypothetical question to another person, this time on my wife's FB. She let me put it on there because she was so exasperated.

I simply asked: "If allowing 25,000 refugees in means 100 Canadians MIGHT die but not allowing them in means 10,000 refugees WILL die... which is the the proper course of action?"

You should've seen the #### hit the fan. I wouldn't be surprised if I get death threats over it.

SO, to you, CroFlames, or whoever else, if you want to be self righteous about me not wanting to educate the hate-filled or think I'm unfairly berating bigots because they're just 'scared'... you go right ahead. But before you do, I urge you to look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're doing these things, and be honest. Because I have to say, it's easy to talk a big game on the internet but, in my opinion, you're being nothing more than hypocritical keyboard warriors. If you have actual evidence to the contrary, I'd love to hear it. From where I'm sitting, it sounds like you spend more time jonesing for a fight than you do practicing what you preach.

The 'scared' argument has to be the funniest one I've heard yet. He's not a racist xenophobe... he's just scared, that's why he said we should bomb the middle east into a glass parking lot, makes perfect sense. Never mind the fact that you're more likely to get struck by lighting 7 times on the same day than you are to die in a terrorist attack in Canada... he's just scared... totally makes sense.

I'm far more scared of the bigots in our own country that are 'scared' than I am of goddamned ISIS itself, and it's not even close. They are the ones who are playing right into ISIS's hands. But of course I'm the bad guy for not helping them out by educating them

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I make a point to discuss it.

If enough people speak up, people will realize their way of thinking is not normal or accepted.

It used to be ok to make gay jokes on message boards like this one. People sat on the sidelines uncomfortably saying nothing. At some point people started speaking up, and it's just not accepted anymore.

I think things are moving the same way with the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discussions.

I'm not going to shut up until things have changed. If I lose relationships with some racists or xenophobes, meh.

Wow, If only there was a way we could reward posters for beauties like this!

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Coming soon to a Facebook near you:

California does a lot of things right.

I noticed Hawaii is accepting refugees. Not a bad gig if you get resettled from Syria to Hawaii

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I make a point to discuss it.

If enough people speak up, people will realize their way of thinking is not normal or accepted.

It used to be ok to make gay jokes on message boards like this one. People sat on the sidelines uncomfortably saying nothing. At some point people started speaking up, and it's just not accepted anymore.

I think things are moving the same way with the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discussions.

I'm not going to shut up until things have changed. If I lose relationships with some racists or xenophobes, meh.

This is a great post and I commend you for trying to make the world a better place. I think my problem is that I just don't have the energy to be fighting with everyone about it anymore. Being outspoken has generally gotten me nothing but trouble and I can't think of a single instance where I've actually changed someone's mind. The Paris attacks were a tipping point for me, I would've said much what you did here just a week ago. Perhaps the difference is demographics? More closed minded people where I live that are wearing me down? I don't know, and I realize it's not exactly a great thing... I'm just tired of all the fighting and bickering with people in my life. Sometimes I feel like they think I'm an ISIS sympathizer the way the go about arguing with me. I've just had enough tbh, maybe I'll get more energy for the fight in the coming years as this is sadly not something that's going away anytime soon.