11-13-2015, 06:20 PM
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#321
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger
Dan Holloway @RFCdan To people blaming refugees for attacks in Paris tonight. Do you not realise these are the people the refugees are trying to run away from..?
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Derp derp derp.
Trying to run away from those people, while in their preferred destination those people somehow exist.
When you have a parade of refugees running the border with no checks and balances, it's pretty easy to be just another face in the crowd.
I'm sure France closing their border was just an act of xenophobia.
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11-13-2015, 06:22 PM
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#322
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by JonDuke
Aircraft carriers are already en route. I'd think it's safe to say the ground assault happens quickly and at a ferocious level.
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The Charles De Gaulle was already on the way to the region to help support the Nato lead action in the middle east.
Its the flagship of the French Navy and the worlds only Nuclear powered aircraft carrier outside of the US inventory.
It carries 40 aircraft including a squadron each of the Rafale M and the Super Etendard dedicated strike aircraft.
On top of that it has a contingent of up to 800 ground troops including Special Forces. I have no doubt that its mission has changed.
I would expect that France will now augment their presence with 2 or 3 of their Mistral amphibious assualt carriers that could add a division and assault helicopters to their force
Where the French are short is in terms of land attack missiles in their navy, I don't believe that their attack subs carry ground attack cruise missiles and their frigates don't really have much in terms of ground attack capability.
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11-13-2015, 06:27 PM
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#323
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MOD EDIT: Not a real quote.
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11-13-2015, 06:28 PM
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#324
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds
Derp derp derp.
Trying to run away from those people, while in their preferred destination those people somehow exist.
When you have a parade of refugees running the border with no checks and balances, it's pretty easy to be just another face in the crowd.
I'm sure France closing their border was just an act of xenophobia.
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Remember that big terrorist attack in France in January? That happened before they opened the floodgates.
Getting into the EU is as simple as finding a boat across the Mediterranean.
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11-13-2015, 06:29 PM
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#325
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
The Charles De Gaulle was already on the way to the region to help support the Nato lead action in the middle east.
Its the flagship of the French Navy and the worlds only Nuclear powered aircraft carrier outside of the US inventory.
It carries 40 aircraft including a squadron each of the Rafale M and the Super Etendard dedicated strike aircraft.
On top of that it has a contingent of up to 800 ground troops including Special Forces. I have no doubt that its mission has changed.
I would expect that France will now augment their presence with 2 or 3 of their Mistral amphibious assualt carriers that could add a division and assault helicopters to their force
Where the French are short is in terms of land attack missiles in their navy, I don't believe that their attack subs carry ground attack cruise missiles and their frigates don't really have much in terms of ground attack capability.
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Canada is pulling out of the NATO mission altogether.
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11-13-2015, 06:34 PM
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#326
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
But the refugees are running away from ISIS too!
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True but there is no denying that having a wave of refugees make it easier for terrorist to sneak in via pretending to be refugee. There must be more scrutiny against those who are more likely to be terrorists like single military aged men from the source countries
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11-13-2015, 06:36 PM
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#327
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Fake smile Justin T says "Canada will not get involved we will act as peace keepers" Meanwhile USA, the UK, Australia etc etc statements universally rightfully condemn and will assist however possible to help bring justice through police networks this horrorific terror. Justin we won't get involved.
Should we be suprised such a coward. Heaven forbid he has to deal with something similar on Canadian soil and reach out to the world.
This two faced leader forgets terrorism is global.
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I think we should wait until he speaks, which is in a few minutes.
This certainly must not be our stance?
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11-13-2015, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Fake smile Justin T says "Canada will not get involved we will act as peace keepers" Meanwhile USA, the UK, Australia etc etc statements universally rightfully condemn and will assist however possible to help bring justice through police networks this horrorific terror. Justin we won't get involved.
Should we be suprised such a coward. Heaven forbid he has to deal with something similar on Canadian soil and reach out to the world.
This two faced leader forgets terrorism is global.
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Calm down, I can see you're frothing at the mouth already...
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11-13-2015, 06:38 PM
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#329
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Location: Calgary
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This was posted on the government's website.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today issued the following statement after learning of a number of terrorist attacks in Paris, France, as well as the taking of hostages:
“I am shocked and saddened that so many people have been killed and injured today in a number of terrorist attacks in Paris, France, and that many others are being held hostage.
“As the situation continues to unfold, Sophie and I join all Canadians in extending our deepest condolences to the families and friends of those killed. It is our sincere hope that the hostages are freed unharmed as soon as possible. We also wish a speedy recovery to all those who have been injured.
“Canada stands with France at this dark time and offers all possible assistance. We will continue to work closely with the international community to help prevent these terrible, senseless acts.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of France and we mourn their loss.”
- See more at: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2015/11/13/....bNFLrrhp.dpuf
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11-13-2015, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
I think we should wait until he speaks, which is in a few minutes.
This certainly must not be our stance?
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Trudeau hasn't said anything yet, but why waste an opportunity to illogically bash him?
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11-13-2015, 06:40 PM
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#331
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Fake smile Justin T says "Canada will not get involved we will act as peace keepers" Meanwhile USA, the UK, Australia etc etc statements universally rightfully condemn and will assist however possible to help bring justice through police networks this horrorific terror. Justin we won't get involved.
Should we be suprised such a coward. Heaven forbid he has to deal with something similar on Canadian soil and reach out to the world.
This two faced leader forgets terrorism is global.
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The Huggies are in aisle 5.
Funny how that's exactly opposite of what he did say.
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11-13-2015, 06:42 PM
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#332
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Canada is pulling out of the NATO mission altogether.
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Yes I know that, Canada will not have a seat at the table on this one.
I'm against Canada pulling out of the combat mission as we will be looked upon as a unreliable ally.
And as much as Trudeau wishes it, there is no peacekeeping aspect to this mission, and its disingenuous for him to think that peacekeeping is at all relevant in the current world.
He's either going to have to reverse his stance on pulling the jets out, which I'm sure his party is hammering him on right now. Or he's going to be left out of the Nato equation.
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11-13-2015, 06:43 PM
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#333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnie
The Huggies are in aisle 5.
Funny how that's exactly opposite of what he did say.
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It's not the opposite of anything he said.
He said nothing really at all, except expressing condolences, which is probably the correct response, at this point.
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11-13-2015, 06:43 PM
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#334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Fake smile Justin T says "Canada will not get involved we will act as peace keepers" Meanwhile USA, the UK, Australia etc etc statements universally rightfully condemn and will assist however possible to help bring justice through police networks this horrorific terror. Justin we won't get involved.
Should we be suprised such a coward. Heaven forbid he has to deal with something similar on Canadian soil and reach out to the world.
This two faced leader forgets terrorism is global.
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Kind of annoying to read through a fast updating news thread and to see people making up phony quotes and attributing them to the Prime Minister to suit their own agenda.
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11-13-2015, 06:43 PM
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#335
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Trudeau didn't seem very strong during that press conference he just had. He looked pretty shaken and didn't even denounce the attack or even call it a terrorist attack. He called it an "incident"
Obama's response was much better.
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11-13-2015, 06:44 PM
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#336
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Yes I know that, Canada will not have a seat at the table on this one.
I'm against Canada pulling out of the combat mission as we will be looked upon as a unreliable ally.
And as much as Trudeau wishes it, there is no peacekeeping aspect to this mission, and its disingenuous for him to think that peacekeeping is at all relevant in the current world.
He's either going to have to reverse his stance on pulling the jets out, which I'm sure his party is hammering him on right now. Or he's going to be left out of the Nato equation.
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I totally agree, even before this attack in Paris. If Canada wants to be a part of Nato, then you have to go along with what the military alliance decides. If not, then you should leave the alliance.
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11-13-2015, 06:45 PM
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#337
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byrns
Trudeau didn't seem very strong during that press conference he just had. He looked pretty shaken and didn't even denounce the attack or even call it a terrorist attack. He called it an "incident"
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I watched it too.
He looked shaken. Soft.
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11-13-2015, 06:45 PM
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#338
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Is this really the time for hyper partisan BS?
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11-13-2015, 06:48 PM
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#339
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Trudeau shows his emotional side more than the robot we had before, so it's understandable if people are shocked by his reaction.
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11-13-2015, 06:48 PM
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#340
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You mean the leader with seven years experience had a better press conference than the one with seven days?
I'm no Trudeau lover but maybe this isn't the time to make such a comparison.
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