Yeah, sorry, CNBC. But it wasn't just Trump - they smacked around EVERYONE. Enough that Cruz just ignored a question to rag on them. I'm surprised they didn't get Kasich more questions given that he was totally willing to play that game.
EDIT: for example, I'm watching now, and they just took a huge shot at Rubio on his personal finances.
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Yeah, sorry, CNBC. But it wasn't just Trump - they smacked around EVERYONE. Enough that Cruz just ignored a question to rag on them. I'm surprised they didn't get Kasich more questions given that he was totally willing to play that game.
EDIT: for example, I'm watching now, and they just took a huge shot at Rubio on his personal finances.
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Maybe if the GOP field actually put some honest to goodness substantive ideas down and were willing to discuss them instead of dodge the issues with the ideas they would get better questions. Not that CNBC did a good job, because they didn't, but the GOP brings this on themselves. Such a lackluster filed of candidates.
This isn't an endorsement of Trump....but Trump better win if Ben Carson is the alternative. This man is spectacularly stupid
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Ben Carson stood by his long-held belief about ancient pyramids in Egypt, that they were used to store grain, rather than to inter pharaohs.
Asked about this Wednesday, Carson told CBS News, "It's still my belief, yes."
The subject came up when Buzzfeed published a 1998 commencement speech delivered by Carson at Andrews University, a college founded by Seventh-day Adventists.
"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain," Carson said. "Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs' graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don't think it'd just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.
In the same speech, he went on to say, "[W]hen you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they'd have to be that way for various reasons. And various of scientists have said, 'Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that's how--' you know, it doesn't require an alien being when God is with you."
Carson reiterated to CBS News that "the pyramids were made in a way that they had hermetically sealed compartments....You would need that if you were trying to preserve grain for a long period of time."
Holy crap, that dude is nuttier than squirrel turds.
Says a lot about where the US is at right now that a guy like Carson gets even 2 seconds of airtime. He might even be the GOP candidate!
Guys like Carson and Trump would be more at home as characters in a sequel to the movie Idiocracy than anything. They're either incredibly stupid or it's all an act... I honestly can't tell which it is.
Oh he's nutty. There is also much doubt about his stories in his autobiography as being a violent kid and that God changed all that instantly. Like trying to stab people, beating them with bats, attacking his mother etc etc etc
Seems not a single classmate thus far can remember him being anything but quiet kid that did his work.
Regardless if this was fabricated or not this supposed man of God has been caught in numerous outright lies.
Oh and he is a complete idiot. Clearly a good surgeon but an idiot.
It also appears that at this point in time the GOP membership is starting to actually coalesce around Rubio as he is starting to really rake in the endorsements from Senators and what not the last 6-8 weeks.
Oh he's nutty. There is also much doubt about his stories in his autobiography as being a violent kid and that God changed all that instantly. Like trying to stab people, beating them with bats, attacking his mother etc etc etc
Seems not a single classmate thus far can remember him being anything but quiet kid that did his work.
I love how his campaign characterizes interviewing people who know him as a "witch hunt".
It seems that even the mildest challenge to any Republican candidate's claim is unacceptable. That we should take everything they say at face value and any attempt to verify it is dirty pool and leftie media trickery.
Reminds me of Palin, and how asking her what magazines she reads was a "gotcha" question.
That's the confusing part. The guy is clearly an exceptionally intelligent/brilliant person when it comes to brain doctorin', but he has some kooky and downright dumb ideas about certain things.
That's the confusing part. The guy is clearly an exceptionally intelligent/brilliant person when it comes to brain doctorin', but he has some kooky and downright dumb ideas about certain things.
It is an interesting insight into the strangeness of human intelligence. Clearly, you need a very high general fluid intelligence to be the first neurosurgeon to separate conjoined twins, but it speaks to some sort of deficiency when you bog down your own campaign with gaffe after unnecessary gaffe.
There's no reason someone couldn't be a surgeon and lack critical thinking skills. He's obviously book smart and good at what he does, but that doesn't mean he can't be a crazy ideologue at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I mean he's pandering for sure, but how does he expect to win a general election when virtually everything he says is to appease Evangelicals? Even most supporters of people like Trump and Rubio think he's dangerous levels of crazy.
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Not really. He was clearly smart and talented enough to get through medical school. But his dismissal of science in general shows that while talented and smart shows he is indeed an idiot.
And it has actually been looked at by Science and is known as the bias blind spot (along with other biases). One blog I think called it smart-idiot-itis.
It essentially means smart people believe they are right because they are smart so the conclusion they arrived at must be the correct one and the other person must have made the thinking error. They can also defend things they arrived at for very stupid reasons very well indeed.
In the above case he believes the pyramids were for grain storage and will defend that using big words and terms like hermetically sealed and the like. He doesn't care what anyone else says because he is smart and therefore the others are wrong. The general population think smart people know stuff, especially smart science types. And people believe them and many will simply nod their heads and say "that makes sense I believe him cause he's smart!". But he's an idiot so they shouldn't. Or at least one should always do their own research to see what the prevailing science has to say. That requires some critical thinking and a large chunk of the general population is scared to do that or think it's hard.
Obama is a psychopath!
Israel should adopt the US system for politics because theirs is too complex! (when being told about the system by an israelite)
Islamists fighting in Syria aren't Syrian but are from Morroco and Europe! It's just like the troublemakers in Ferguson!
Prison makes people gay!
I'd get everyone to rush the shooter!
Hey guy with the gun in my back I think the person you actually want is over there at the cash register!
man causing climate change isn't true!
Muslims shouldn't be president!
Pyramids stored grain!
Obamacare is the worst thing to happen to the country since slavery! In a way, it is slavery...
He's never ever been wrong. The smartest man in the room. Just ask him. If you don't believe it then you are a moron.
In reality once you get away from medicine he's the biggest idiot in the room. Well until Donald Trump comes over.
It's also why doing research and remaining objective is extremely difficult to do at times.
On why does he pander...well because it's the evangelical, more right leaning Red states that tend to dominate early primaries so he hopes to win those (like Santorum and other crazies) and hope some momentum can propel him to a nomination. It never really works but that's why these guys do it.
In the end though, the GOP primary is actually dominated by the Blue states full of moderate republicans which is why the more moderate candidates tend to come out on top (and why the actual guys sitting in Washington tend to be on right side of the GOP party). The problem the last two elections has been that they have been pulled so far right early on in the primary process they can get picked apart in the general election for those things.
That's the confusing part. The guy is clearly an exceptionally intelligent/brilliant person when it comes to brain doctorin', but he has some kooky and downright dumb ideas about certain things.
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It is an interesting insight into the strangeness of human intelligence. Clearly, you need a very high general fluid intelligence to be the first neurosurgeon to separate conjoined twins, but it speaks to some sort of deficiency when you bog down your own campaign with gaffe after unnecessary gaffe.
There's Dr. Oz as well... Though he may not be stupid so much as a greedy sell out. He may know what he's doing and selling.
But I often wonder as well, about different types of intelligence. Some people are very book smart, but seem to have no common sense. I had a friend in high school and afterwards, he was in pre-med and kicking ass. But he was so clueless about other things. Was on a landscaping job with a few other friends, and they had to end up building the owner a new gate because he couldn't figure out which way to open it and he broke the thing!
He was a very nice guy though, not like the two doctors mentioned. Well, guess I don't know them personally, but based on the actions I would have my suspicions.
I think in some of these other cases, there's ego as well. When your ego gets in the way, as it must for people who want to be president, a lot of people probably stop listening and learning and weighing options as much as they should, and end up doing or saying some really stupid things.
As far as if either of them win, I'm kinda hoping they do, cause the Democratic nomination would absolutely obliterate them.
I love how his campaign characterizes interviewing people who know him as a "witch hunt".
It seems that even the mildest challenge to any Republican candidate's claim is unacceptable. That we should take everything they say at face value and any attempt to verify it is dirty pool and leftie media trickery.
Reminds me of Palin, and how asking her what magazines she reads was a "gotcha" question.
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Hard to be a good surgeon and an idiot.
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Savant then?
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Hard, but apparently not impossible.
That's the confusing part. The guy is clearly an exceptionally intelligent/brilliant person when it comes to brain doctorin', but he has some kooky and downright dumb ideas about certain things.
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Originally Posted by peter12
It is an interesting insight into the strangeness of human intelligence. Clearly, you need a very high general fluid intelligence to be the first neurosurgeon to separate conjoined twins, but it speaks to some sort of deficiency when you bog down your own campaign with gaffe after unnecessary gaffe.
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There's Dr. Oz as well... Though he may not be stupid so much as a greedy sell out. He may know what he's doing and selling.
But I often wonder as well, about different types of intelligence. Some people are very book smart, but seem to have no common sense. I had a friend in high school and afterwards, he was in pre-med and kicking ass. But he was so clueless about other things. Was on a landscaping job with a few other friends, and they had to end up building the owner a new gate because he couldn't figure out which way to open it and he broke the thing!
He was a very nice guy though, not like the two doctors mentioned. Well, guess I don't know them personally, but based on the actions I would have my suspicions.
I think in some of these other cases, there's ego as well. When your ego gets in the way, as it must for people who want to be president, a lot of people probably stop listening and learning and weighing options as much as they should, and end up doing or saying some really stupid things.
As far as if either of them win, I'm kinda hoping they do, cause the Democratic nomination would absolutely obliterate them.
It is the maintenance of a belief structure in the face of contradictory evidence.
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Apparently the well of anti-intellectual things that Ben Carson has said is very deep, and the media have no difficulty bringing up more examples. Most recently a video from a 1998 commencement speech has surfaced in which Carson states his belief that the Biblical Joseph built the pyramids of Egypt to store grain. He states directly that the world’s archaeologists are wrong, the pyramids were not built for the pharaohs, but Carson in his brilliance had divined their true history and purpose.
His brilliant insight is that something huge must have been built to store grain, and that structure would not just vanish, so perhaps it was the pyramids. Never mind all that archaeological evidence for how, when, and why the pyramids were built and the utter lack of evidence for the Joseph-grain storage hypothesis.
I bring all this up in order to address a question – how can one person be undeniably brilliant in one sphere of their intellectual life, and shockingly ignorant and anti-intellectual in other spheres? I have heard this question often in recent weeks, pretty much every time a new revelation about Carson’s beliefs comes out.
I don’t think this is as much of a contradiction as it may at first seem. Carson is evidence for something that I have tried to emphasize often here – all humans suffer from similar cognitive flaws and biases. We can all be brilliant and stupid at the same time, and apparently have no difficulty compartmentalizing our beliefs in order to minimize cognitive dissonance.
I write frequently about the neuroscience of belief, because I think there is no greater insight we can have than how our own brains function, because that is the tool we use to understand the rest of the universe. Invariably, however, when I discuss a specific cognitive flaw or bias, the common reaction is the equivalent of, “Yeah, other people are stupid.”
Take, for example, the Dunning-Kruger effect. I almost universally hear this principle described as, “dumb people are too dumb to realize how dumb they are.” The data, however, does not support this conclusion. It does not reveal something about “dumb people,” but rather something about all people. We are all on the Dunning-Kruger spectrum, and we can be on different places on the spectrum with regard to different areas of knowledge, at the same time.
It would be better to state the Dunning-Kruger effect as, “People have difficulty assessing their own level of knowledge or expertise with a tendency to be increasingly overconfident at decreasing levels of knowledge.” The Dunning-Kruger effect describes all people, not just dumb people.
Ben Carson is not an anomaly or contradiction. He is a perfect representation of humanity.
