2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flames_F.T.W]

Hopefully Brad is putting out feelers to move Hudler. We can't afford to re-sign him in the offseason, so hopefully we can get some solid assets for him. Same goes for Russell.
The rest of this season should be geared towards getting returns for expiring assets, offloading contracts and player development.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by T@T

No offense but wizards don't pay $8.3m for two bum goalies.

Correct. Only saving grace is that they are both off the books at the end of the season and the team can start fresh at the position.

[Vinny01]

Guys on the Fan have it right. Treliving needs to try and get something done in net or the season will be completely lost. With the Pacific division the Flames are a decent run away from still being in the mix for a playoff spot. They won't play their way out of this they need a goalie to try and save the season

[Icon]

Lehtonen might become available from Dallas... but they're rolling so they don't really need to make a move themselves.

Jets could decide to run with Hutchinson and offload Pavelec. They'd probably want a substantial return though.

Ward's probably the best bet from the Canes. Gotta think Lack's their plan long term. And they're likely looking for a roster shake-up at the moment. Unfortunately I don't see Ward as a huge upgrade over what we have... but maybe all the team needs is a new look back there.

[Poe969]

The only way they should get another goalie is if they can trade one of the current ones and nothing else of value.

The Flames shouldn't give up anything of value to try and save this season. They shouldn't give up current players for a quick fix if they can get a better return for them later. If they get a goalie, I'd prefer a younger one with more potential not a guy like Pavelec.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by T@T

No offense but wizards don't pay $8.3m for two bum goalies.

Would we be better off with just Hiller and Ortio? I highly doubt it. He did what he could to fill the position without using assets. The $8.3m between both goalies argument is getting old. Both expire this year and we don't need the cap space this year anyway. Literally doesn't matter at all unless you believe in the notion that the 3 goalie system somehow turned all our goalies to poo. I do not subscribe to that belief personally.

It's not like Treliving can just magically make a good goalie appear. Would you have been comfortable if he traded some high picks for Lehner or Jones instead? Keeping in mind both would likely look like garbage behind our terrible defense.

I hate to say it but Talbot might have been a good pickup at the price the Oilers got him for but that would've meant no Andersson or Kylington.

[Vinny01]

Talbot has been mediocre to bad so I disagree that was not the right pickup

[Tron_fdc]

If we HAVE to get a goalie I'd take a run at Ben Bishop. 6 mill a season for the next 2 years, TB in a bit of cap trouble and needs to re-sign Stamkos.

Kind of on the fence here though. I doubt we're making playoffs, so we might as well ride out the suck this year and figure it out in the off season.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Talbot has been mediocre to bad so I disagree that was not the right pickup

Yeah I was just thinking out loud. My point was that there wasn't exactly better options that wouldn't have been prohibitively expensive.

I would take Talbot over any of our 3 goalies though, in a friggin heartbeat. He might be struggling right now but he's at least proven that, this year, he is capable of stopping a beach ball.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

If we HAVE to get a goalie I'd take a run at Ben Bishop. 6 mill a season for the next 2 years, TB in a bit of cap trouble and needs to re-sign Stamkos.

Kind of on the fence here though. I doubt we're making playoffs, so we might as well ride out the suck this year and figure it out in the off season.

If Tampa trades him it will be this summer. Why trade your proven starter when you are a cup contender? I could see him being shipped at the draft so not a bad option this summer but not this season

[CliffFletcher]

The season is lost. Any moves made need to be about the future. Giving up any real assets for a stop-gap goalie would be blind folly.

And while the goaltending has been bad, what are the odds that Hiller and Ramo both became worse goalies in the same off-season, and that Ortio is already a complete bust? Seems a remarkable coincidence to me.

The Flames' team defence is awful. Bringing in another team's cast-off goalie will not turn things around. Bite the bullet, see what we have in Ortio while letting Gillies develop in the AHL, and let time run its course. Sign a veteran in the off-season if we have to. Panicking now will only make matters worse in the long run.

[Icon]

I'd like to see us target a team's young backup, but play him as an 1A/1B with one of our guys like the plan was this year anyway.

Who knows if Ortio's going to pan out... hell who knows if Gilles is going to pan out. I just think we should be exploring another goalie who could end up a long term option.

- Condon would be a good pickup but the Habs likely hang on to him. Tokarski's probably available but not sure he's all that better than what we have.

- Vasilevskiy would be a decent grab but as mentioned above Tampa's in cap trouble and he may be the guy they run with in the next few years

- Stalock or Gibson would be decent options but usually you don't see goalie swaps within a division (because of what can happen ie: Kipper)

- I'd target Rantaa myself, Lunqvist will be the starter there still for likely 4-5 years. Asking price would be high though I think. Not sure the Rangers would want our vets either. Maybe something centered around Hudler going the other way? Obviously there'd need to be other pieces involved.

[sureLoss]

Another target is Calvin Pickard.

Berra seems to have solidified his position as backup with the Avalanche and Pickard becomes waiver eligible next season IIRC.

[Split98]

I honestly wouldn't be opposed to swapping goalies with Toronto.

At this point, who cares? Maybe Reimer or Bernier finds a spark here. Maybe they don't... and we end up with another sub .870 goalie.

Question is, is Toronto thinking the same thing?

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Icon

I'd like to see us target a team's young backup, but play him as an 1A/1B with one of our guys like the plan was this year anyway.

Who knows if Ortio's going to pan out... hell who knows if Gilles is going to pan out. I just think we should be exploring another goalie who could end up a long term option.

- Condon would be a good pickup but the Habs likely hang on to him. Tokarski's probably available but not sure he's all that better than what we have.

- Vasilevskiy would be a decent grab but as mentioned above Tampa's in cap trouble and he may be the guy they run with in the next few years

- Stalock or Gibson would be decent options but usually you don't see goalie swaps within a division (because of what can happen ie: Kipper)

- I'd target Rantaa myself, Lunqvist will be the starter there still for likely 4-5 years. Asking price would be high though I think. Not sure the Rangers would want our vets either. Maybe something centered around Hudler going the other way? Obviously there'd need to be other pieces involved.

Condon would be fantastic. What would the Canadiens needs even be though?

Rantaa is another good option for sure. I'm thinking of our roster, and having a hard time putting together what the Rangers would even want from us as well.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Another target is Calvin Pickard.

Berra seems to have solidified his position as backup with the Avalanche and Pickard becomes waiver eligible next season IIRC.

Wouldn't be against that at all. He would be pretty darn cheap too

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Tampa trades him it will be this summer. Why trade your proven starter when you are a cup contender? I could see him being shipped at the draft so not a bad option this summer but not this season

Yeah, I just looked up TB's stats, and they're right in the mix for playoffs. No reason to shake things up unless the right deal came along, and I doubt I make that trade from our position of weakness.

Bobrovski crossed my mind too, but holy hell is that ever a big contract.

Who is Carter Hutton (they just mentioned it on the Fan)? Nashville backup?

[Split98]

Just not fair...

[Badgers Nose]

If they get a goalie i hope they get a shut down stud defenseman too. Otherwise i dont see even a great goalie bridging the gaps between 4 goals againt versus 2 goals for.

This team is a complete mess, fromt to back. Might as well just wait it out. Sell vets at the deadline and draft.

Another top 5 draft pick wont hurt this team.

[Flame19,289]

Originally Posted by Icon

I'd like to see us target a team's young backup, but play him as an 1A/1B with one of our guys like the plan was this year anyway.

Who knows if Ortio's going to pan out... hell who knows if Gilles is going to pan out. I just think we should be exploring another goalie who could end up a long term option.

- Condon would be a good pickup but the Habs likely hang on to him. Tokarski's probably available but not sure he's all that better than what we have.

- Vasilevskiy would be a decent grab but as mentioned above Tampa's in cap trouble and he may be the guy they run with in the next few years

- Stalock or Gibson would be decent options but usually you don't see goalie swaps within a division (because of what can happen ie: Kipper)

- I'd target Rantaa myself, Lunqvist will be the starter there still for likely 4-5 years. Asking price would be high though I think. Not sure the Rangers would want our vets either. Maybe something centered around Hudler going the other way? Obviously there'd need to be other pieces involved.

Linus Ullmark has also looked very good in a few limited starts for Buffalo.
http://sabrenoise.com/2015/11/03/buf...k-stepping-up/

Perhaps he would become available when Lehner returns from injury?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If they get a goalie i hope they get a shut down stud defenseman too. Otherwise i dont see even a great goalie bridging the gaps between 4 goals againt versus 2 goals for.

This team is a complete mess, fromt to back. Might as well just wait it out. Sell vets at the deadline and draft.

Another top 5 draft pick wont hurt this team.

IMO, the team is a hot mess in their own zone. Focus should be squarely on the Defensemen and Goalies. How they fix that mess is the key to getting it all right in the short term but more importantly the long term.