How do we get a new goalie?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I'm not big into rushing, and I'm not suggesting it would end up saving anything, just a random musing. But would the Flames look to call up Gillies before making a trade for a goalie? I mean you have this guy, has had a good start in the minors, has long been considered a top goaltending prospect, is massive and athletic, wouldn't you look to see what he has before bringing in yet another goaltender? He certainly wouldn't be the first early-twenties goaltender.

Definitely not (at this point).

The Flames simply aren't playing well enough defensively. Throwing Gillies in there and hoping for the best is beyond irresponsible (he has played 6 pro games).

The Flames need to worry about getting their defensive game in order.

And while they are doing that (and when they accomplish that), I would expect the goaltending will improve as well.

If it doesn't, make a trade. If there is no trade to be made, the season would already be totally lost at that point anyway.

There is just no sensible argument and scenario to justify rushing Gillies.

[dammage79]

What about Kristers Gudlevskis? Vasilevsky is healthy now. Good size, healthy, has sound positioning. Could be something there.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Definitely not (at this point).

The Flames simply aren't playing well enough defensively. Throwing Gillies in there and hoping for the best is beyond irresponsible (he has played 6 pro games).

The Flames need to worry about getting their defensive game in order.

And while they are doing that (and when they accomplish that), I would expect the goaltending will improve as well.

If it doesn't, make a trade. If there is no trade to be made, the season would already be totally lost at that point anyway.

There is just no sensible argument and scenario to justify rushing Gillies.

I don't disagree, but I also don't see the harm in giving him a couple games if things continue as they are.

What if Gillies was in another organization and you could trade for him instead of Ward or the like? Would you do it and try him out?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I don't disagree, but I also don't see the harm in giving him a couple games if things continue as they are.

Panic moves are always dumb and pointless. Always.

[ScorchyScorch]

We've allowed 50 goals in 12 games so far. 4 more goals than second worst Columbus.

Half of the western conference has allowed 25 or less in the same amount of games..

I wouldn't be opposed to any experiments at this point.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Panic moves are always dumb and pointless. Always.

How is trying a promising young goaltender in our system any more or less of a panic move than trading assets for goalie that may or may not be any better than what we already have? Young goaltenders are uncommon but not unheard of, particularly if it's just a short term thing. Last season we had Ortio come up and play very well in a short span, but important span of games, and it was a boost to the team. Goalies came back from injury, Ortio got sent back down and we got a taste of what he could do. I don't see a problemw ith trying something similar with Gillies. I'm not talking about bringing in Mason McDonald, or a fresh pick into the fold. He's the same age or older than our current 2 or 3 top forwards and only slightly younger than arguably our best defenseman and a newly added (hopefully) franchise D. You're not going to destroy Gillies' career with a short term stint in the NHL while the other goalies are struggling. Even if he does have a tough go you send him back knowing he has work to do.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

There is a story? I'm not quite sure I know it.

Cinderella story from 2014 playoffs. With price out I can't imagine he's available in the short term.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blo...f-nhl-playoffs

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Cinderella story from 2014 playoffs. With price out I can't imagine he's available in the short term.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blo...f-nhl-playoffs

He played four games and lost three of them. It was an impossible situation, but Tokarski is no solution. Gudlevskis, on the other hand, nearly beat one of the best hockey teams ever assembled on his own. I'd gamble on him, without a second thought.

[Northendzone]

My son is a goalie; however, he is not eligible to be drafted until 2020

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

He played four games and lost three of them. It was an impossible situation, but Tokarski is no solution. Gudlevskis, on the other hand, nearly beat one of the best hockey teams ever assembled on his own. I'd gamble on him, without a second thought.

Wasn't saying we should get him, was just saying he might be one of the guys out there that may be available.

I like your option, provided the cost of acquisition is reasonable. I can't see us spending much to get another g, if at all. Have to trust our pro scouts and their opinions and that if they see a g out there that is better than what we have and doesn't require a major asset to acquire, they will relay that info to Treliving.

[calgaryblood]

How is gollie formed?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

How is goalie formed?

Probably should be "gollie", but thanked nonetheless.

[Samonadreau]

Need to fix our defensive play before we look for a new goalie.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Need to fix our defensive play before we look for a new goalie.

It won't improve without atleast average goaltending.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Inferno

It won't improve without atleast average goaltending.

For the most part to say the goaltending so far has been sub-par would be an under-statememt but last night was a prime example of how average goaltending allows 4 goals on 23 shots. I cant remember which game it was but it was one from the road trip where we outshot the other team but the scoring chances were at least double in their favour.

IMO Our goaltending has been terrible, our defensive play has been just as bad.

Thank god Brodie is back. Hes a stud. Want to see him play with Hamilton to see if thry can get going together

Edit: its not all on the D either, forwards have to be better on their coverage in their own zone

[CSharp]

Solution solved: put Russel in net!

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

For the most part to say the goaltending so far has been sub-par would be an under-statememt but last night was a prime example of how average goaltending allows 4 goals on 23 shots. I cant remember which game it was but it was one from the road trip where we outshot the other team but the scoring chances were at least double in their favour.

IMO Our goaltending has been terrible, our defensive play has been just as bad.

Thank god Brodie is back. Hes a stud. Want to see him play with Hamilton to see if thry can get going together

Edit: its not all on the D either, forwards have to be better on their coverage in their own zone

What I mean by it won't improve without atleast average goaltending is that when you have a lack of confidence in your goalie you overthink and make more mistakes. A bad goalie can make a good defense look bad.

Ramo was average last night but they also looked like a team who didn't trust their goalie. I'm sure they feel a little better about him after last night and if that continues I think you'll see less mistakes. If the goaltending goes back to being horrible I don't think any changes they make to the defense will matter.

[EVERLAST]

Lets trade for just the "legend of Eddie Lack" and not Eddie LAck

thatll be enough right??