2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[IgiTang]

Jarome would look great playing 2nd line with Gaudreau and Bennett. I don't think his cost to acquire would be as much as the Flames got. He's 4 years older and no longer in that prime range in his career. It's simply a matter of time before his production drops.

That would have to be the approach BT takes if talking about Iginla.

Likely a deal of a decent fwd prospect, decent D and a 2nd would get it done.

Wideman, B prospect + 2nd or

Klimchuk or Poirier + 3rd or

Granlund + 2nd or..

The Flames have plenty they could move to bring Iggy back.

Im not saying I would want to pay those prices, but I would think that's the ballpark of what it would take.

Or... Jones + Wideman +2nd and 3rd + Nakladal for Iginla and Barrie!!

Do it Brad.. Lol

[YYC in LAX]

^ that is God awful

[Yoho]

Rebuild complete.

[Ozy_Flame]

Just say no to Iginla.

[IgiTang]

I'll always have a special place in my heart for Jarome Iginla. He's done more for this franchise than any other member since 1989.

If there was a deal for him and the aim was to have him paired with Johnny and Sam, I would be very happy and welcome him back with open arms. He is still scoring too.

[Vinny01]

I don't know about bringing Iggy back so soon. Maybe one for one with Wideman but rather not trade for a 38 year old

[codynw]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Curious what the ask would be for Jeff Skinner considering he's probably overpaid at $6M per until 2019. I don't think I'd want him at this point, but curious what the asking price is.

Jeff Skinner is bordering on cap dump at this point.

Do people even pay attention to hockey outside of Calgary? Skinner hasn't been a good hockey player for like 3 years.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don't know about bringing Iggy back so soon. Maybe one for one with Wideman but rather not trade for a 38 year old

I suggested this last week. The contracts are pretty much a wash in terms of cap hit and term. The Avalanche get the younger player and an offensive defence man. It's a trade that happens early in the season but definitely not late in the season. I think it would work for both sides.


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[adc]

Originally Posted by codynw

Jeff Skinner is bordering on cap dump at this point.

Do people even pay attention to hockey outside of Calgary? Skinner hasn't been a good hockey player for like 3 years.

2 years ago he scored 33 goals do you follow hockey outside of Calgary?

[Caged Great]

Let the past be fond memories.

If the Flames acquire anyone, get someone that is going to be a part of the team for a longer time, even if it costs more.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Let the past be fond memories.

If the Flames acquire anyone, get someone that is going to be a part of the team for a longer time, even if it costs more.

I don't disagree at all. But when it comes to Iginla, I hope he retires wearing a Flames jersey.
I honestly do think that he, JG and Bennett would be lights out. JG is the player the Flames had been searching for to feed Jarome the one timers for years.

Johnny skates circles until everyone forgets about Jarome and then blam.. Goal.

This is why I think Stamkos would be the perfect fit as well.

But then again, most players would and do look good playing with Johnny.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by adc

2 years ago he scored 33 goals do you follow hockey outside of Calgary?

Seriously, this. There are Canes I'd want no part of (Ward, J. Staal) but I would take Skinner any time. Guy is only 23 years old and "for the last three years plus this year" has scored, on average, at a 27 goal pace (also scored at a 27 goal pace for his full career). At 6 million a year that's exactly what you want. You've effectively filled the void that otherwise will be filled by an aging and declining Hudler.

It's like people think "concussion" and automatically associate the guy with suffering from post-concussion syndrome or something.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Seriously, this. There are Canes I'd want no part of (Ward, J. Staal) but I would take Skinner any time. Guy is only 23 years old and "for the last three years plus this year" has scored, on average, at a 27 goal pace (also scored at a 27 goal pace for his full career). At 6 million a year that's exactly what you want. You've effectively filled the void that otherwise will be filled by an aging and declining Hudler.

It's like people think "concussion" and automatically associate the guy with suffering from post-concussion syndrome or something.

Well.. Post concussion syndrome is a real thing and sticks with you for life to a certain extent.
That said, in the right environment, Skinner would light it up.
That said, the Flames play or try to play a very physical game and Skinner does not make this team better when it comes to grit. Many of the Flames take the hit to make the play. Is Skinner able to play that type of game or would he constantly hear foot steps and make poor decisions. I think that's what has people concerned.
There's no question he has a helluva shot, speed and finish.
But a 23 year old, undersized player that can't take some hits every game is what makes me want to shy away from him. If he was a low cost high reward situation, sure. But not at the price Carolina would be looking for.

Just too high risk imo.

[Hammertime]

Bringing back Jarome would mess up the room. He's someone we bring back only if we need a final piece, and the new generation has clearly taken over the leadership. We're already on Tha path of transitioning to the monahan/bennett/gaudreau/brodie era. Jarome could disrupt that process.

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[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by codynw

Jeff Skinner is bordering on cap dump at this point.

Do people even pay attention to hockey outside of Calgary? Skinner hasn't been a good hockey player for like 3 years.

Bad start to this season and a very bad season last year. A career riddled with injuries, but he put up 33 goals in 2013-2014. Has always played on a bad team. A change of scenery could be big for him.

I wouldn't write him off by any means which is why I said I'm curious what his trade value is as he's overpaid at $6M/year.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Hammertime

Bringing back Jarome would mess up the room. He's someone we bring back only if we need a final piece, and the new generation has clearly taken over the leadership. We're already on Tha path of transitioning to the monahan/bennett/gaudreau/brodie era. Jarome could disrupt that process.

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You could be right..

However, I like to think that Jarome is much more professional than that and wouldn't try and come in and take over.
With my rise coloured glasses I think Jarome would slide in and have no pressure at all cause the young guys are being the leaders and infact would step up his game to follow suit of the team.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Hammertime

Bringing back Jarome would mess up the room. He's someone we bring back only if we need a final piece, and the new generation has clearly taken over the leadership. We're already on Tha path of transitioning to the monahan/bennett/gaudreau/brodie era. Jarome could disrupt that process.

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If bringing in Iginla "disrupts" the supposed new era then it likely wasn't going to be much at all.

That said I don't see why Colorado would give him away for nothing and don't see it worthwhile to give up something of value to get him.

I think he would look great with Gaudreau and Bennett and then you can have Colborne-Monahan-Hudler taking the tougher match-ups. So if you can get him for a b level prospect like Granlund, Arnold, Agostino or Klimchuk then go for it.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by adc

2 years ago he scored 33 goals do you follow hockey outside of Calgary?

Okay 3 years was an exaggeration. But this is his second mediocre season in a row.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Well.. Post concussion syndrome is a real thing and sticks with you for life to a certain extent.

Sure, but having had concussions doesn't mean you have post-concussion syndrome. Ferland had a concussion last year. Ramo had a concussion last year.

Yes, Skinner's had more than one. Early in his career he put himself in bad positions and got punished for it, but as far as I know he's much improved at avoiding hits at this stage in his career. He went and had a 33 goal season after those first two concussions. His concussion last year while a red flag was a freak accident no different from Gio's arm injury.

He may never have a concussion again for the rest of his career and may never even have symptoms of post-concussion syndrome.

Is there a risk? Sure. But at his age I would say it's risk vs reward and his contract is a good one worth eyeing.

That said, the Flames play or try to play a very physical game and Skinner does not make this team better when it comes to grit. Many of the Flames take the hit to make the play. Is Skinner able to play that type of game or would he constantly hear foot steps and make poor decisions. I think that's what has people concerned.

Skinner is an very nice skater who's developed a sense for spinning off of checks. The idea that he "can't take some hits every game" is probably more of a myth than a reality.

But a 23 year old, undersized player

5'11
200lbs

That's not undersized.

If he was a low cost high reward situation, sure. But not at the price Carolina would be looking for.

Now this, is a fair point. Carolina would want a nice return for Jeff Skinner. Presumably. But if the return they want is something more reasonable like Hudler + Klimchuk + Culkin (just randomly throwing it out there) you have to consider it.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by adc

If bringing in Iginla "disrupts" the supposed new era then it likely wasn't going to be much at all.

This era is about

-NHL Speed
-Aggressive Forechecking
-Strong Backchecking
-Forwards rotating and covering for pinching defensemen

Which of those things does Iggy do well? I love Iggy, but at this stage in his career he's a 3rd line player + PP. He can still get points but he's a liability overall.