[GT] Flames @ Islanders

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Is it a little early still or would it be possible that Hartley's job could be on the line?

This is on the players so far. I haven't liked a couple of Hartley's decisions but the system works. We all know this. It's up to the players to get arses in gear. I know it's Hartley's job to help facilitate this but ultimately there's something not sitting right in the locker room.

That's a severe knee jerk reaction if Hartley gets the boot. Doesn't seem to fit Trelivings MO.

[thymebalm]

Puck over the glass should be a judgement call like every other penalty, then?

edit: I personally love the penalty.

[N-E-B]

1. Why hasn't Ortio been playing all year long?

2. Score please.

[nightfx]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Honest question, who do you replace him with?

Boudreau

[Karl]

The signs of seeing the team that we saw last year have been few and far between.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Honest question, who do you replace him with?

Hiring John Tortorella would have been some prime trolling of the fanbase. Columbus got there first.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Is it a little early still or would it be possible that Hartley's job could be on the line?

Hard to say. I have to admit Treliving doesn't look or sound at all happy and I don't know how long he's willing to let this continue. If this keeps up much longer the playoffs will likely be out of reach so firing him wouldn't likely make a difference and IMO you just let the season play out and determine his fate in the offseason. However if Bruce Boudreaux is suddenly available you never know.

[Armchair Quarterback]

Better not be one of those nights again or I'm going to have to switch to rye

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by chummer

They don't mean to put it over the glass. I agree with Hrudey, I hate the call.

But it is a necessary call.

Before the rule was implemented it was commonplace for the team on their heels in their own zone to intentionally chip the puck into the crowd for a whistle. Sometimes it happened over...and over...and over again. It is a crappy rule, but the alternative was MUCH worse.

[Rejean31]

Halak always channels his inner George Vezina against the Flames. Then when he plays the Oilers he looks like "red light Racicot". Pisses me off!!

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

But it is a necessary call.

Before the rule was implemented it was commonplace for the team on their heels in their own zone to intentionally chip the puck into the crowd for a whistle. Sometimes it happened over...and over...and over again. It is a crappy rule, but the alternative was MUCH worse.

I agree, but why not make it a judgement call as thymebalm suggested.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Puck over the glass should be a judgement call like every other penalty, then?

edit: I personally love the penalty.

A judgement call would then require referees to draw conclusions about intent, no? I can't see how that would possibly work: How does one determine when a player intentionally causes a delay versus an accidental one? Accidental trips are still trips, and accidental high sticks are still high sticks.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

If you are Treliving, and you are evaluating how to improve, do you see Hartley as the weak link? After you just had the confidence to sign him to a multi-year deal?

It's a mental issue with this team, I'm not sure firing Hartley is the way to fix that.

Hartley should do what he did last year and start benching underachievers

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

At this point I'm not even a believer in the third period magic. Shutout coming up for Halak.

He's going to have the shutoutiest shut out that's ever been shutout.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

That was last year. Let that thought go. Hartley has done awesome but he's very demanding and could be wearing on these guys. I think it's a valid idea.

This is stupid.

Any coach who's worth anything is demanding. That's how they get their team to be better than the other team.

Babcock
Quenneville
Trotz
Sutter
Hitchcock

I could go on.

What you don't want is a coach who is irrational and demanding.

Keenan
Tortorella
etc.

If the coach demands a certain level of excellence and execution, it's up to the players to find a way to give it, so long as it isn't unreasonable. If those players can't deliver, they're just not good enough.

[kukkudo]

Firing Hartley if this continues might happen. Problem is all the coaches available aren't that great.

[skcli]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Honest question, who do you replace him with?

Craig Conroy as the Interim

[activeStick]

Okay, I've watched every game this season on Game Centre except the game in Vancouver, so I'll switch it up and leave my place for the third and not watch at all.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

A judgement call would then require referees to draw conclusions about intent, no? I can't see how that would possibly work.

Refs already have intent to injure as a penalty/ruling for a penalty. It works.

[Badgers Nose]

Ortio is making Bob look like an idiot so far tonight, for sticking with the other two idiots for so long.