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hockey.modern · 10-22-2015, 07:02 PM

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Goalies:

- More made in public of it being a distraction then what it really was.

- The rotations were not working as they were not getting confidence.

- Purpose of demotion is to get Karri Ramo back going again to where he was before.

- Flames needs to be better, but goal-tending is not the main problem, though it is one of them.

- To give Joni Ortio a start when the flames are deeply struggling is not fair for him.

- His time will come. Right now Hiller feels like he can step it up.

- Kari Ramo will not impact Jon Gillies development

- Kari Ramo is a pro, and can be a big mentor for Gillies

- 3 goalie rotation does not work and was well aware of the risks when Ramo was resigned

- Joni is a good, young goaltender but we need confidence from Jonas Hiller.

- We've gotta build confidence starting in net and hopes he can give light to the Flames on Friday.

- We need to break it down from the very first shift all the way to the very end, on Friday night.

- Kari Ramo on waivers is not a punishment; more to get people going.

Defence:

- The league was catching up to Brett Kulak, it was time to send him down where he can continue to play top minutes with a good note in mind.

- Dougie Hamilton came in with a lot of expectations, but he is still a young developing player.

- Was in a lot of spotlight in a Canadian market

- Dougie told management he can be much better, management also saying he can be better.

- Dougie, similar to the rest of the team needs to find his game.

- Jakub Nakladal played great in training camp and Stockton

- Has the weight, ability to defend.

- His games in Stockton shows puck skills and a bomb of a shot.

- Smid will be ready for Friday.

Confidence:

- Looking at the Detroit game as a season reset.

- The second goal from Washington was a major let down for the team.

- The Flames are going through a rough stretch, but as cliche it is; the only way is work out of it.

- If you ask anyone, Brad Treliving has been miserable.

- Treliving believes he can be much better, talking/engage to the coach, players.

- Is trying everything he can to help the team but at the end of the day, it's getting the group to play better.

- Coaches are the main part to help them, but management can mentally help the players when they are down.

- Focus right now is, "Why this is happening right now."

- Feels an urgency, (no panic) still early in the season but the way their playing can continue on and that's the main concern.

- You can throw in a Cary Price, and we'd still be losing. We are not generating enough.

- Lot's of the game is concerning right now. It is time to clean it up and build off of a base.

To End:

Told the players, "The thoughts can't be from the outside. As difficult as it is this season, we deeply believe in this group. The waves are high right now. We want to see who can step it up"

- This is a true test to the character of this hockey team

hockey.modern · 10-22-2015, 07:46 PM

Different interview, but talks about similar things from above in video.

442scotty · 10-22-2015, 08:08 PM

I bet if they had a Carey Price they would be doing a lot better... Not having to worry about scoring because of goaltending would lead to more scoring...

Looch City · 10-22-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey.modern

- Dougie told management he can be much better, management also saying he can be better.

- Dougie, similar to the rest of the team needs to find his game.

We believe in you Dougie!

Vinny01 · 10-22-2015, 08:21 PM

Thanks for the write up. Treliving is a great speaker and I love that he says he needs to be better lumping himself with the team.

Flamescuprun2018 · 10-22-2015, 08:50 PM

Just to add a bit to some of Brads excellent comments (my thoughts on each in some instances).

Brad was happy to apologize and take the heat for the 3 headed monster goalie situation. It was time to act to right the ship with the Ramo waiving. Not a demotion for Ramo but a tough solution to an unfortunate problem. Was not the A plan he had intended when he signed Ramo. Avoided any discussion about trades but reading between the lines some other plan fell through. (Hiller trade?)

The letdown against the Caps when the team fell behind 2-1 early in the 2nd period was a big concern for both he and Bob. That happens when a team has lost confidence. Just did not happen last year except during the 8 game losing streak. So much of hockey is mental between the ears. (Boy do we need another Kings Gaudreau hat trick or Giordano OT winner to get our mojo back!)

Not going to make any panic trade moves. This is the moment when GMs can make big mistakes that cost the team dearly in long run. (Bennett is not getting traded)

Ramo in minors will not hurt Gillies. They know how outstanding an asset they have in Gillies and plan to take very good care of insuring he plays enough.

Kulak was perhaps the biggest pleasant surprise this season but the big leagues caught up to him. (Some top pair Stockton minutes will be just what he needs)

Nakladal better than expected. Could surprise once he gets his shot with the Flames.

Brad speaks clearly, openly and transparently. He has a plan to build assets toward a championship team but has to stick to the plan and not panic. He is as upset as we all are regarding the poor start.

We are in year 3 of a rebuild after all...

In Brad we trust!

hockey.modern · 10-22-2015, 09:01 PM

^ good point about Treliving sticking it the plan of building assets towards a championship. He is taking his time with the course of this rebuild and that is exactly what is needed. Last year, we could've traded our assets for a rental to push us for a playoff spot, but instead he stayed on track which led to a deeper blue line at the draft. Going with the plan also helps us acquire Hamilton which perfectly fits with the age group of the future core of this team in its prime.

Flamescuprun2018 · 10-22-2015, 09:18 PM

Absolutely. Upgrade here and there to build asset base. Dont give away prospects who are still growing.

He seems to have a good understanding about when is the right time to make moves when in a position of strength when our assets are valued the most.

Draft picks for players at or just before draft.
Fringe final year contract players for draft picks at trade deadline.
Depth players for picks when others have injuries and no depth.

He wont get everything right (noone does) but a bad trade from Tre we will rarely see.

I stand by my view he will end up right up there with Fletcher on our all-time best GM list. He is too sensible and dedicated to not succeed.

MarkGio · 10-22-2015, 09:50 PM

There's a lot of players I can't see being apart of that championship build.

Ramo, Hiller, Raymond, Jones, Stajan, Engelland, Bollig, Backlund and Colborne.

heep223 · 10-22-2015, 09:55 PM

I think Stajan and Colborne will be part of the team. The rest I agree. I feel like Backlund is finally starting to lose me as a supporter.

Locke · 10-22-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGio

There's a lot of players I can't see being apart of that championship build.

Ramo, Hiller, Raymond, Jones, Stajan, Engelland, Bollig, Backlund and Colborne.

Good thing this isn't our year to go for it.

codynw · 10-22-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkGio

There's a lot of players I can't see being apart of that championship build.

Ramo, Hiller, Raymond, Jones, Stajan, Engelland, Bollig, Backlund and Colborne.

Gaudfather · 10-23-2015, 07:42 AM

Brad the Wizard is looking like the Sorcerer's Apprentice right now!

Strange Brew · 10-23-2015, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkGio

There's a lot of players I can't see being apart of that championship build.

Ramo, Hiller, Raymond, Jones, Stajan, Engelland, Bollig, Backlund and Colborne.

Add Wideman, Smid

Disagree on Colborne.

I like Backlund and Stajan too but they are paid too much for what they contribute.

Hudler is valuable but may be more valuable as a trade chip. Same with Russell.

I don't necessarily see enough top end talent in the organization to replace and improve on all of the above. If Hudler and Russell could get you a high end forward prospect, that is something Flames needto do this year. And just gut out next year when so many of the bad contracts (Wideman, Engelland, Smid, Raymond) go away. No sense trading those guys because you'll just have to take back another bad contract. Deadline next year could net you a return for Wideman.

dissentowner · 10-23-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

I don't see the point here. Every time has passengers that hoist the Cup. I can do that too.

Here is Chris Dingman, a two time Stanley Cup winner. Whoop.

Street Pharmacist · 10-23-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't see the point here. Every time has passengers that hoist the Cup. I can do that too.

Here is Chris Dingman, a two time Stanley Cup winner. Whoop.

That was the point. "I don't see these guys on a championship team" is silly because every championship team has those guys

CroFlames · 10-23-2015, 10:32 AM

Firstly, add some tags to that Digman ugly pic.

Secondly, a team needs to be multifaceted to win a championship. Engellend and Bollig who are two players that get much flak on this site, but were big contributors in the playoffs. You need offensive guys, defensive guys, gritty guys, leadership guys and experienced guys to win.

the2bears · 10-23-2015, 10:37 AM

I don't get that some people are calling the Ramo signing a failure. It seems it's didn't work out as planned, but the original signing was an insurance policy, right? As has been mentioned if Hiller gets injured what do you do then?

At the time it was the right call, just turns out the insurance isn't (yet) needed.

polak · 10-23-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CroFlames

Firstly, add some tags to that Digman ugly pic.

Secondly, a team needs to be multifaceted to win a championship. Engellend and Bollig who are two players that get much flak on this site, but were big contributors in the playoffs. You need offensive guys, defensive guys, gritty guys, leadership guys and experienced guys to win.

Yup. Considering how this team reacted to Ovechkin blatantly disrespecting our goalie (they didn't), this team needs some one like Bollig who normally wouldn't put up with BS like that.

That was absolutely embarrassing.

Street Pharmacist · 10-23-2015, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by polak

Yup. Considering how this team reacted to Ovechkin blatantly disrespecting our goalie (they didn't), this team needs some one like Bollig who normally wouldn't put up with BS like that.

That was absolutely embarrassing.

Cause he totally dealt with it the other night