Justin Trudeau says marijuana should be legalized

[blankall]

Originally Posted by polak

It doesn't matter if it wipes them out. They will lose 99% of any money they were making in Canada from weed. Just like that. That's not a small hit.

Or they could gain even more money, depending on how the system works. For example, I met a dispensary owner in Washington state. He was involved in illegal growing and distribution prior to the legalization. He had all the infrastructure, knowledge, and connections required to hit he market running. He went from making 10s of thousands of dollars to millions overnight. Hardly the punishment for criminals some are suggesting legalization will result in.

[polak]

Originally Posted by blankall

Or they could gain even more money, depending on how the system works. For example, I met a dispensary owner in Washington state. He was involved in illegal growing and distribution prior to the legalization. He had all the infrastructure, knowledge, and connections required to hit he market running. He went from making 10s of thousands of dollars to millions overnight. Hardly the punishment for criminals some are suggesting legalization will result in.

Yes that's the trade off, those who were getting away with it can now go legit but at least it's all taxed and they can hire people who pay tax.

It's kind of unavoidable.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by blankall

Or they could gain even more money, depending on how the system works. For example, I met a dispensary owner in Washington state. He was involved in illegal growing and distribution prior to the legalization. He had all the infrastructure, knowledge, and connections required to hit he market running. He went from making 10s of thousands of dollars to millions overnight. Hardly the punishment for criminals some are suggesting legalization will result in.

How is that a bad thing? If they abide by the law and pay taxes I don't see why we can't let them do their thing.

The larger benefits are in the criminal justice system not having to spend millions processing marijuana related criminal charges. And in the people not having to serve jail time because they were caught smoking or dealing pot.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Azure

How is that a bad thing? If they abide by the law and pay taxes I don't see why we can't let them do their thing.

The larger benefits are in the criminal justice system not having to spend millions processing marijuana related criminal charges. And in the people not having to serve jail time because they were caught smoking or dealing pot.

Totally agree, and isn't it what happened to moonshiners back during prohibition?

Also I think it is totally ridiculous to think Cannabis won't be regulated like Tobacco or Liquor for non-medical users. People should have an awareness of what the THC and CBD content is of what they are getting, currently for many it is just based on silly names and anecdotes of how it makes you feel, not really scientific.

[Azure]

Were there ever any studies done on the financial impact legalizing marijuana in Canada would have? I know a lot were done regarding the US, and the savings were in the billions.

Its so strange. People have no problem paying billions to the drug industry for some pretty dangerous pain killers, but they have serious issues with legalizing a bloody plant. The medical benefits of being able to use marijuana for pain management are crazy compared to using other pain killers like Tylenol 3. I love throwing that into people's faces. Their perception of what is and isn't morally 'right' is downright crazy.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by GGG

Possession for personal use without intent to distribute but if you sold drugs or traffic larged quanities you certainly were part of a network of crime that caused harm.

So there definitely is a line where you were a user of a relatively harmless substance and you were a dealer selling unknown product to kids.

Agreed

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by blankall

Or they could gain even more money, depending on how the system works. For example, I met a dispensary owner in Washington state. He was involved in illegal growing and distribution prior to the legalization. He had all the infrastructure, knowledge, and connections required to hit he market running. He went from making 10s of thousands of dollars to millions overnight. Hardly the punishment for criminals some are suggesting legalization will result in.

One mas criminal is another mans entrepreneur

Originally Posted by Azure

Were there ever any studies done on the financial impact legalizing marijuana in Canada would have? I know a lot were done regarding the US, and the savings were in the billions.

Its so strange. People have no problem paying billions to the drug industry for some pretty dangerous pain killers, but they have serious issues with legalizing a bloody plant. The medical benefits of being able to use marijuana for pain management are crazy compared to using other pain killers like Tylenol 3. I love throwing that into people's faces. Their perception of what is and isn't morally 'right' is downright crazy.

Tylenol would probably never make it through the regulatory process today - it's terrible. That said, I can operate a vehicle on T3's without my driving being 'impaired'.

[Azure]

That is why we have to shutdown that network of crime and legalize them. I know it sounds morally reprehensible considering the damage some of those criminal organizations have done, but it is for the greater good that it has to be done.

[Flames_Gimp]

I hope he follows through with this, I wonder how long it will take till we see some progress?

[Grimbl420]

I imagine we see some sort of decriminalization in the first sitting of Parliament, until the proper legislation addressing regulation and taxation is implemented. The provinces will need to be involved like they are in the sale of liquor, and that's the part of legalization I think will take the most time.

We already have the infrastructure in place to sell it with the many head shops that are already in the city. They would just need to be licensed to sell after legislation is passed.

I fully expect all non violent offenses regarding cannabis will be pardoned not long after decriminalization.

[CroFlames]

I wonder if Justin whips the party to pass marijuana legislation if he will be accused of being a tyrant and dictator like Harper was.

[polak]

I predict a year until you can legally buy it.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Azure

Were there ever any studies done on the financial impact legalizing marijuana in Canada would have? I know a lot were done regarding the US, and the savings were in the billions.

Its so strange. People have no problem paying billions to the drug industry for some pretty dangerous pain killers, but they have serious issues with legalizing a bloody plant. The medical benefits of being able to use marijuana for pain management are crazy compared to using other pain killers like Tylenol 3. I love throwing that into people's faces. Their perception of what is and isn't morally 'right' is downright crazy.

My friends mom just finished chemo and uses marihuana for her pain. She has a card and orders her stuff online. It's pretty funny. You can chose different strains and different forms of THC. All the way from bud, to candies, to shatter, to hash. Crazy selection.

No one can ever tell me to my face weed is 100% bad and it has no benefits.

[Minnie]

My kid has used it off and on to help with pain. I'd quite like to see it legalized.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I wonder if Justin whips the party to pass marijuana legislation if he will be accused of being a tyrant and dictator like Harper was.

Was Harper pushing legislation that the majority Canadians wanted at the time?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

My friends mom just finished chemo and uses marihuana for her pain. She has a card and orders her stuff online. It's pretty funny. You can chose different strains and different forms of THC. All the way from bud, to candies, to shatter, to hash. Crazy selection.

No one can ever tell me to my face weed is 100% bad and it has no benefits.

I don't think people are thinking about that. Say she uses it for a year for pain management, how does it affect her body compared to if she would use a harder painkiller that we already know does a lot more damage.

[Zevo]

This is what you can look forward to. Here is a link to a dispensary on Vancouver Isle that doesn't require a prescription. Go to the menu.

treesdispensary

Another store I have gone to has pretty much the same product at slightly better prices

[pylon]

My back is totally gibbled right now, been in spazam for over a week and from the front I look like the letter C. I would love to be able to smoke something right now to take the pain away as nothing is working. Unfortunately, I would never know where to look. Kinda wish the stuff was legal at this moment in time.

[N-E-B]

Few thoughts on the topic...

I don't understand why anyone would be against legalization at this point. It makes too much sense in pretty much every way possible.

I do, however, think that criminal records should remain intact after legalization, the reason being that those people knowingly made a choice to go against the law, unlike the homosexuality analogy used earlier in which those people were imprisoned over something they had no control over.

I do wonder if it will still be illegal to use in public, like alcohol is. I also wonder if bars/clubs will be permitted to allow usage inside, or if they will have to set up designated areas outside the establishment.

I never have and probably never will use the stuff, but I'm 100% for legalization.

[Drak]

I could agree with keeping people in prison to carry out their terms if they were trafficking at the time it was illegal and if their trafficking offenses were severe enough to warrant finishing those sentences - although I would be for cutting sentence time down on a case by case basis. I don't agree with keeping people in jail for possession charges though, once it becomes legal.