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Old 10-16-2015, 07:41 PM   #21
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Gee, I'm glad I didn't mention the tattoo sleeves we got on both his arms, or the various piercing's.
And the vaccines!
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Old 10-16-2015, 07:58 PM   #22
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Mine is done but didn't make a dam bit of difference. About a year after tieing the knot oral pleasures dried right up.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:03 PM   #23
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There's fun quasi peer reviewed research out there that says that men who are circumcised have decreased penis sensitivity and therefore lower sexual pleasure.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:04 PM   #24
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Despite it being the unpopular choice, we had our son circumcised. We went to a Doctor that used the mogen clamp.

He didn't cry. He didn't even flinch. He cried for literally ten seconds when he peed for the first day, and then it wasn't an issue at all. It's not as big a deal as what everyone tries to make it.

I firmly believe that it's only hard for the parents. And if you do decide to have it done, ensure you have one of the newer techniques to help avoid any potential issues.

Also, if anyone tries to give you grief about your decision, calmly suggest they kiss the fattest part of your posterior, and tell them to mind their own ####ing business. It's your kid; its your choice. End of story.
Do you mind sharing why you did?
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:13 PM   #25
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You can make light of it all you like, but I'm not sure why you feel the need to do so. I don't think that it is a worthy procedure unless it is recommended for the medical health of a child and feel like it is downplayed for no good reason. If you disagree that is fine, you can state why you think it is worthy instead of resorting to sarcasm.
Perhaps it's that I answered a fellow posters question with my own experience and was told that my choice was wrong.

You don't think it's a worthy procedure? Fine. Don't do it. I don't personally care. Nor do I particularly care what you think about my choice.

You told me I am not able to do whatever I want with my infant son. I don't know if you you believe I have gone to some back alley butcher who took a pair of rusty tin snips to my son's penis, and not a licensed doctor who performed it in a sterile environment, but the sarcasm was based on that assumption.

My cousin has a son who she didn't get circumcised. Her husband is, and she regrets not having it done as the boy questions her on why his is different than his dad's. He feels weird. I didn't want that. So we got it done.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:54 PM   #26
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We chose not to circumcise our son as it really provides no benefit IMO. Just pointless mutilation as far as I'm concerned.

I was interesting how much my dad got hilariously offended over our decision though. He insisted on paying for it as if it would change our mind.
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Old 10-16-2015, 09:11 PM   #27
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I did a bit of research and I didn't conclude there was any viable upside to having the procedure done on my son. Plus, my thought also was in our North America society we leave our little girls genitals intact (and in fact view other cultures modifications as cruel and basically mutilation) so why is it ok to surgically interfere with the boys genitals in our society?

Anyways I ultimately left the decision up to my husband, since he has a penis (obviously) and I felt like he might have stronger opinions one way or the other. His perspective was basically that he didn't see the point of having the procedure done in this day and age. So we didn't.

We did do one of those birth and babies classes, and interestingly about half the baby boys in our group did end up having the procedure done. I was surprised because I had thought most baby boys weren't being circumcised anymore. Anecdotal experience i guess. Anyways, all of the parents of the boys who had it done reported that it really wasn't too big a deal. Tylenol and some special numbing cream. And the recovery was pretty quick too.
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Anyways, all of the parents of the boys who had it done reported that it really wasn't too big a deal. Tylenol and some special numbing cream. And the recovery was pretty quick too.
To me, I barely care about the pain during the procedure. I have no doubt it fades quickly, although I still question your judgement if you think slicing off a chunk of your baby's penis is a good idea. Of course it isn't.

I'm more concerned about the decreased sensitivity that would result. Robbing your kid of a degree of sexual pleasure for his whole life should be a crime imo.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:01 PM   #29
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Also, if anyone tries to give you grief about your decision, calmly suggest they kiss the fattest part of your posterior, and tell them to mind their own ####ing business. It's your kid; its your choice. End of story.
It's your kid; it's your choice?! Are you joking around with us? Let me tell you something. You don't own your kid, you don't own his body, and you certainly don't own his penis. You mutilated your son's genitals. Of course people are going to judge that decision. How could they not? Especially with an answer like 'it's your kid; it's your choice.' That's not a good enough reason to slice off the skin that protects the most sensitive part of his body.

How about you leave decisions regarding penile body modifications up to your son for when he's an adult. You have no right whatsoever to be cutting off parts of his body. It's fataing sick.
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Sliver you sure are good at what you do, I'll give you that.

Now that you're all riled up, can you show some studies that prove circumcision does in fact rob your son of enjoying sex as much?

As someone who was snipped as a kid I find your outrage hilarious.
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To me, I barely care about the pain during the procedure. I have no doubt it fades quickly, although I still question your judgement if you think slicing off a chunk of your baby's penis is a good idea. Of course it isn't.

I'm more concerned about the decreased sensitivity that would result. Robbing your kid of a degree of sexual pleasure for his whole life should be a crime imo.
Melodramatic much. It's a bit of loose skin. Earlier poster mentioned ear piercing tongue-in-cheek I assume. Is that mutilation too? If it's legal and medical doctors will do it why make a person feel as if their choice is morally, ethically, socially, unacceptable.
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To me, I barely care about the pain during the procedure. I have no doubt it fades quickly, although I still question your judgement if you think slicing off a chunk of your baby's penis is a good idea. Of course it isn't.

I'm more concerned about the decreased sensitivity that would result. Robbing your kid of a degree of sexual pleasure for his whole life should be a crime imo.
Well, I suppose we agree because as I outlined in my post, we did not circumcise our son.

I'm just relaying some information from my fairly recent experience that I thought might contribute to the OPs question/decision.
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Gee, I'm glad I didn't mention the tattoo sleeves we got on both his arms, or the various piercing's.



We considered it for our firstborn, without doing a lot of research. Then we found out it wasn't covered, didn't feel like coughing up the dough and that was that. Same reasoning for our second son.

Then I did a little research into it. Figured it didn't make much sense, but it was a moot point as we didn't have any more sons after that. I used to be very adamantly against it, and debated the hell out of it. Now, I just couldn't care less about it as a debate topic. For us, if we had it to do all over again, being more informed, we would not circumsize.

I figure, if the boy has any issues about being circumsized, he can have that conversation with his parents when he's old enough to figure it all out.
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I figure, if the boy has any issues about being circumsized, he can have that conversation with his parents when he's old enough to figure it all out.
Isn't that kind of the point though? At that point it is somewhat too late. Why not let it be done then if it is a pressing need for the child?

I'm with Peanut. Seems like a pointless procedure, and while it isn't the same as female circumcision it is similar in the rationale. Why perform it when there is not a compelling reason to do so?

There are many things that could be improved in this world, I don't think anyone is making this a top issue...but I find it disconcerting how downplayed it is by some. I think it is something that bears scrutiny as it is making a permanent choice for a child for little reason (in many cases).
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Perhaps it's that I answered a fellow posters question with my own experience and was told that my choice was wrong.

You don't think it's a worthy procedure? Fine. Don't do it. I don't personally care. Nor do I particularly care what you think about my choice.

You told me I am not able to do whatever I want with my infant son. I don't know if you you believe I have gone to some back alley butcher who took a pair of rusty tin snips to my son's penis, and not a licensed doctor who performed it in a sterile environment, but the sarcasm was based on that assumption.

My cousin has a son who she didn't get circumcised. Her husband is, and she regrets not having it done as the boy questions her on why his is different than his dad's. He feels weird. I didn't want that. So we got it done.
Would it really be that hard to have a conversation with a child and explain why there is a difference as opposed to cutting off a part of his body?

And I was attacking your logic, not you as a person. I don't think people that are circumcised are secondary citizens or that people who choose it are evil...just that it bears thinking about instead of doing it for many of the reasons that it is done today.
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Huh, I had no idea there were debates on this topic. I can't really give an opinion on whether you should do it or not, but I was snipped when I was a baby and it has never bothered grown up me.

I'd personally rather have it done as a baby than have it done as an adult if I needed it

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To me, I barely care about the pain during the procedure. I have no doubt it fades quickly, although I still question your judgement if you think slicing off a chunk of your baby's penis is a good idea. Of course it isn't.

I'm more concerned about the decreased sensitivity that would result. Robbing your kid of a degree of sexual pleasure for his whole life should be a crime imo.
It's a double edged sword, he'll last longer. See what I did there?
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Well, I suppose we agree because as I outlined in my post, we did not circumcise our son.

I'm just relaying some information from my fairly recent experience that I thought might contribute to the OPs question/decision.
Yeah for sure, sorry about that. I quoted you, but I wanted to respond to the point in general that people always bring up how the procedure itself isn't that painful. I think that's less important to the longterm impact of having a piece of your penis unnecessarily removed without your input or permission. I wasn't disagreeing with you or picking on you but I see how it could have come across like that.
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Melodramatic much. It's a bit of loose skin.
True, but also really not true. If you compare a foreskin to loose elbow skin under a microscope, you will see the massive difference. Foreskin is LOADED with specialty nerve endings. It's only all just loose skin if you don't look closely enough.
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