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Old 10-14-2015, 10:58 AM   #141
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I've owned a bunch of vehicles. In rough order of ownership and including my wife's cars:

1980 Chev C10 Silverado (square headlights, wish I still had this one)
1982 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (my high school car, put a ton of money and time in but it was t-boned and written off by an old lady with a huge Lincoln)
1984 Pontiac Fiero (we crammed 5 people in this once)
1982 GMC High Sierra (on propane, very cheap to run at that time)
1997 Ford Ranger
1988 Ford Bronco II (put a ton of miles on this thing, transmission grenaded on the highway)
1992 Dodge Shadow
1988 Chevrolet S-10 Blazer 4x4 (2.8L v6, woefully underpowered)
1994 Dodge Shadow
1994 Nissan Sentra
1999 Pontiac Alero GLS
1994 Eagle Talon
2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT
2000 Dodge Neon (worst car ever)
2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT (this was a good car)
2006 Chevrolet Silverado ext-cab Z71
2009 Chevrolet Silverado ext-cab Z71 (current)
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee (current)

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Old 10-14-2015, 01:57 PM   #143
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2005 Ford Escort - First car was ok blew the engine and had to replace
1998 Dodge Colt - Wife's first car. I loved this little car.
2006 Mazda 3 Sport - Great hatchback all the bells and whistles wife crashed into a snowbank and was never the same
2006 Scion XB - Great car I should have never sold it
2006 - Toyota Rav 4 while moving to Cochrane I backed into in in a parking lot with my friends truck and bought it. Great car shouldn't have sold it
2006 - F150 (Current) Wanted a truck to pull a trailer 2wd does the trick!
2010 - Dodge Caravan wife bought the van as Rav 4 was too small for dayhome
2009 - Mazda 3 (Current) Wife thought minivan was too big without day home bought this
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Old 10-14-2015, 02:06 PM   #144
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1978 - Pontiac Acadian
1991 - VW Fox
1992 - Ford Tempo
1983 - Chevy Chevette
1983 - VW Cabriolet
1998 - VW Golf
1992 - Ford Escort
1997 - Jeep Cherokee
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Old 10-14-2015, 02:09 PM   #145
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The only vehicle I've owned that I wish I had never gotten rid of. A huge regret. I still miss it.
1982 VW Westfalia. Exactly like this even the colour.
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Old 10-14-2015, 04:42 PM   #146
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One of the safe ways you can have fun with a good handling car on city streets is to punch it once you're at the apex of a on-ramp as the curve opens up.

There is nothing more disheartening than giving it full throttle and having your tires light up and having your front end start to plow.
I think you are over rating, under appreciating what an really good EDL can do. I am pushing 300ish HP and about 375 ft/lbs of torque through the front wheels of my GTI, and I am have zero issues with under steer. There is so much electronic wizardry going on up front now, you have to be in 100% maniac mode for the car to get upset in a corner. Also APR tunes the car so well now, they have a torque limiter in 1st and second now to off set any issues.
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Old 10-14-2015, 04:56 PM   #147
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In order:

1979 Pontiac Parisienne
1986 Chevy Silverado
1989 VW Jetta
1992 Ford Probe
1992 Mazda MPV until this past July and now,
2009 Mitsubishi Outlander

After all those years (I'm 38 now) of driving older vehicles, my Outlander feels like a Ferrari!
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:05 AM   #148
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I think you are over rating, under appreciating what an really good EDL can do. I am pushing 300ish HP and about 375 ft/lbs of torque through the front wheels of my GTI, and I am have zero issues with under steer. There is so much electronic wizardry going on up front now, you have to be in 100% maniac mode for the car to get upset in a corner. Also APR tunes the car so well now, they have a torque limiter in 1st and second now to off set any issues.
Typo? 275 ft/lbs?

I got ea888 w/ hpfp/exh/flash/intake; 370/370 @93oct
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:34 AM   #149
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2000 Chrysler Neon
2002 Chevy Cavalier (Current)
2002 Honda Civic Si
2006 Dodge Durango (Current)
2007 Toyota Tacoma (George)

I bought the Civic put oh highschool. I moved in and eventually married my ladyfriend so I inherited the Neon. Found out my ladyfriend (soon-to-be wife) was pregnant, so I traded my Civic () for a Tacoma, as we needed something with more room since we also had a 175lbs Rottweiler. The Neon got hit by a few deer (seriously they hit me, twice I wasn't even moving and the other time it crashes into my passenger side door as I was driving 100km/h) and eventually died. About a year later I ended up buying a Cavalier from a family friend for a work car. Shortly thereafter my former ladyfriend was suddenly and mysteriously pregnant again, and we decided to trade George in for Django the Durango and got $5000 back.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:02 AM   #150
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Typo? 275 ft/lbs?

I got ea888 w/ hpfp/exh/flash/intake; 370/370 @93oct
370whp needs ported K04 or Stage 3 turbo. More like 310/390 if its stock turbo EA888 on Stage 2.
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:12 AM   #151
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370whp needs ported K04 or Stage 3 turbo. More like 310/390 if its stock turbo EA888 on Stage 2.
Oops. I meant I have EA113 (r)
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Oops. I meant I have EA113 (r)
I wondered why you had the mythical HPFP upgrade on the EA888. You've already got the K04 you lucky #######
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Old 10-16-2015, 11:41 AM   #154
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I have a stage one 93 octane flash.

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210, 220 & 230 HP & 258 FT-LBS - Stock as reported by VW
235 HP & 270 FT-LBS of torque - Stock as mesured and estimated at the crank by APR
305 HP & 371 FT-LBS of torque +78 HP @ 3,950 RPM / +105 FT-LBS of Torque @ 3,700 RPM - 91 AKI / 95 RON
316 HP & 381 FT-LBS of torque +87 HP @ 4,050 RPM / +114 FT-LBS of Torque @ 3,800 RPM - 93 AKI / 98 RON
328 HP & 382 FT-LBS of torque +97 HP @ 4,150 RPM / +125 FT-LBS of Torque @ 3,900 RPM - 104 AKI / 108 RON
316 HP & 381 FT-LBS of torque +87 HP @ 4,050 RPM / +114 FT-LBS of Torque @ 3,800 RPM - 93 AKI / 98 RON
328 HP & 382 FT-LBS of torque +97 HP @ 4,150 RPM / +125 FT-LBS of Torque @ 3,900 RPM - 104 AKI / 108 RON
So 316 HP / 381 ft-lbs for me. The gains are so crazy on the stock car, I see zero reason to do anything else. An intake and exhaust is going to give you a very small bump.... Maybe 10-15 HP, for 3x the cost of just the flash.

But I hear putting a Sparco, Type R, and Mugen Power decal adds like Infiniti horsepowers.
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I have a stage one 93 octane flash.

So 316 HP / 381 ft-lbs for me. The gains are so crazy on the stock car, I see zero reason to do anything else. An intake and exhaust is going to give you a very small bump.... Maybe 10-15 HP, for 3x the cost of just the flash.

But I hear putting a Sparco, Type R, and Mugen Power decal adds like Infiniti horsepowers.
Man, those are unreal gains.
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Old 10-16-2015, 12:11 PM   #156
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I have a stage one 93 octane flash.



So 316 HP / 381 ft-lbs for me. The gains are so crazy on the stock car, I see zero reason to do anything else. An intake and exhaust is going to give you a very small bump.... Maybe 10-15 HP, for 3x the cost of just the flash.

But I hear putting a Sparco, Type R, and Mugen Power decal adds like Infiniti horsepowers.
I think the downpipe is worth the extra 30 or so from Stage 2.
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I think you are over rating, under appreciating what an really good EDL can do. I am pushing 300ish HP and about 375 ft/lbs of torque through the front wheels of my GTI, and I am have zero issues with under steer. There is so much electronic wizardry going on up front now, you have to be in 100% maniac mode for the car to get upset in a corner. Also APR tunes the car so well now, they have a torque limiter in 1st and second now to off set any issues.
An Electronic Differential Lock puts the brakes to the spinning wheel. I've had this feature on several cars.

My opinion of having fun in a powerful car is not having the brakes put on one wheel while I mash the throttle.

Nor is it to have the software limit torque in 1st and 2nd.

I think you're underrating how fun it is to have a car with significant power that you can fully use, and even scare yourself with the throttle without even being close to any danger of leaving the road.
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An Electronic Differential Lock puts the brakes to the spinning wheel. I've had this feature on several cars.

My opinion of having fun in a powerful car is not having the brakes put on one wheel while I mash the throttle.

Nor is it to have the software limit torque in 1st and 2nd.

I think you're underrating how fun it is to have a car with significant power that you can fully use, and even scare yourself with the throttle without even being close to any danger of leaving the road.
Tourque limitation is coming standard on a lot of new cars. Even AWD ones. Manufacturers don't really advertise it though.

And the GTI performance pack now has a mechanical diff lock.

Different strokes for different folks, but no matter how you cut it, my front drive GTI with an APR tune, has beat the snot out of a new Golf R stock. For about 10k less. And regardless of AWD, it would do the same on a track, the gap is that long. AWD won't make up for the power difference.
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And the GTI performance pack now has a mechanical diff lock.

Different strokes for different folks, but no matter how you cut it, my front drive GTI with an APR tune, has beat the snot out of a new Golf R stock. For about 10k less. And regardless of AWD, it would do the same on a track, the gap is that long. AWD won't make up for the power difference.
What if I want to beat everyone for first tracks somewhere down the Smith-Dorrien in the dead of winter?

You have me intrigued though. Does the R offer an APR tune?
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