[PGT] Flames literally lose to Blues 4-3

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

"And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth."

- Mark Twain, Tom Sawyer, 1876

"To his mind, the acme of first class music as such, literally knocking everything else into a cocked hat."

- James Joyce, Ulysses, 1922

"He literally glowed; without a word or a gesture of exultation a new well-being radiated from him and filled the little room."

- F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby, 1925

"His looks were very haggard, and his limbs and body literally worn to the bone."

- Charles Dickens, Nicholas Nickleby, 1839

"After one of those dreadful nights, when we had been literally rocked in our bed."

- Jane Austen, Sandition, 1817

Just for the record, it's the people complaining about the "misuse" of literally that are literally misusing the word. It's meaning was set long before any of us had been born.

... or else the word has been literally misused for a long time, including by some literally famous people.

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

"And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth."

- Mark Twain, Tom Sawyer, 1876

"To his mind, the acme of first class music as such, literally knocking everything else into a cocked hat."

- James Joyce, Ulysses, 1922

"He literally glowed; without a word or a gesture of exultation a new well-being radiated from him and filled the little room."

- F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby, 1925

"His looks were very haggard, and his limbs and body literally worn to the bone."

- Charles Dickens, Nicholas Nickleby, 1839

"After one of those dreadful nights, when we had been literally rocked in our bed."

- Jane Austen, Sandition, 1817

Just for the record, it's the people complaining about the "misuse" of literally that are literally misusing the word. It's meaning was set long before any of us had been born.

BT, how long did it take you to come up with all of that?

[Strange Brew]

I am not a believer that Ortio is the savior, or even a solid NHL starter, but would like to see how the team plays in front of him. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

Biggest problem this season is our expensive, highly touted defensemen. They should be carrying this team even without Brodie. Giordano and Hamilton have had a tough start relative to expectations. Good news is that it's hard to see how that could last.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I am not a believer that Ortio is the savior, or even a solid NHL starter, but would like to see how the team plays in front of him. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

Biggest problem this season is our expensive, highly touted defensemen. They should be carrying this team even without Brodie. Giordano and Hamilton have had a tough start relative to expectations. Good news is that it's hard to see how that could last.

Yeah, Gio gets the free pass - but he has really struggled too, so far.

[getbak]

Gio has really been fighting the puck so far. I first noticed it in the preseason game against the Avs where he had at least 5 passes hop over his stick at the blue line. The same thing happened a few times last night too.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Just in the post-game interview. Thought he had a solid game and that the goals weren't his fault. Had a strong first and continued to keep the Flames in the game until the end.

I think he needs to go watch the tape then because as someone else pointed out, Hiller allowed two goals from the point where he could clearly see the puck the whole way, he just missed them. That can't happen. Especially that first one from the rookie, he clearly could see the shot because the D man had moved the screening player to the side enough he could have a clear view. He just simply missed it. Hiller always allows at least one weak terrible goal, he is not the answer.

[Jimdon]

Didn't like Russells game at all last night, on both if the point shots that scored he was caught standing in front of the net doing nothing while their players screened the goalie and made life difficult for hiller. Seems like if he's not standing in front of the shooter blocking shots he's just not very effective.

[Huntingwhale]

I'm not worried about the loss at all. Like l said in the GDT, the Blues beat our ass every time. Not a surprising result at all, even at home. Some people are down on Hamilton, but the guy is only 22. One year older then rookie Kulak. I don't care what he did in Boston, he's young and new and will take time to adjust. Not worried about him at all. Same with 19 year old Sam Bennett.

The Flames just entered year 3 of a rebuild. Our window to contend isn't close to being open just yet. There will be growing pains. Also we seem to start every season slow.

Practice, watch video, and move onto the next game boys!

[Royle9]

Flames power play was awful for the most part, and honestly I think its always been a weakness for the flames. The flames have 1 real "execute" that works some of the time and that's the drop pass to Johnny and he dangles into the zone, however this year it seems most teams are onto that and clog the neutral zone which prevents it from happening.

3 of the 4 power plays we had last night were basically wasted, 0 offensive zone pressure, 0 shots on net (or so it seemed) the only other option we ever use is the dump and chase, except we forget the chase portion of that and its dumped in and already out of the zone before anyone gets in there.

Maybe its just me, but I find it very frustrating to watch is squander power plays every game, we cant just rely on our 3rd period come backs/PK all year again and hope to make the playoffs.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I am not a believer that Ortio is the savior, or even a solid NHL starter, but would like to see how the team plays in front of him. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

Biggest problem this season is our expensive, highly touted defensemen. They should be carrying this team even without Brodie. Giordano and Hamilton have had a tough start relative to expectations. Good news is that it's hard to see how that could last.

Did Oreo take candy from your baby? You really have a hate on for the kid.

It's hard to understand Bandwagon fans.

[Armchair Quarterback]

One of the things I noticed last night was that our defensemen hesitated to bring the puck up over the offensive blue line themselves. The Blues knew that our guys were looking for that pass, and simply held back.

I'm disappointed with some of the players who have signed new contracts (especially Gio) but there's some rust to shake off. Overall I think we played a good game aside from the famous second period. Don't let the shots for/against be an indicator, we had lots of good chances that didn't end in a shot on goal.

[PepsiFree]

Some thoughts:

- Bennett seems ready to burst. Just playing so good out there, the points have got to start coming.

- Hamilton I think disappoints because people are expecting something different. He's very young and I think a lot of the exciting of getting him came from his potential but people misinterpreted that. He'll be very very good.

- Hiller has been good. Not good enough that you think you might go on a cup run but good enough that he might get you to the playoffs. Ortio should still draw in.

- Backlund has been weak. He's only good when he's winning draws and digging in hard on the forecheck. He's not doing that but I'm confident he will.

- Frolik has been everything he was touted as and more. Fantastic pick up.

Didn't think anyone else was notably bad or notably good. Good hockey so far this year! Big improvements over last year on a "whole game" outlook. Still having trouble for 20 minutes a game which needs to be fixed before we ever hope to be a top team.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Did Oreo take candy from your baby? You really have a hate on for the kid.

It's hard to understand Bandwagon fans.

Saying I don't believe he is the savior is not hating him. I just said I want him to start. So far you have called me ignorant and a bandwagon fan. Would you please stop?

[CroFlames]

I only had the chance to watch the 2nd and boy oh boy did it hearken to that 4-1 loss last year to the blues where they were a class above the Flames.

Hopefully period 1 & 3 weren't that atrocious.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

I liked the effort from most of the team last night. Raymond seems to at least be on a hotstreak, but hopefully he figured out that if he wants his family to stay in Calgary, he'll have to start earning his contract.

Bennett has the drive and is determined to score, but something just isn't clicking quite right. It's only a matter of time before he breaks out.

Hiller was good, but not great. Still ahead of Ramo, but I think Ortio should get the next start now and hopefully can run with it.

Agreed Backlund seems noticeably weaker this season. He's slipping into irrelevance and seems non-existent in the offensive zone. I know he's good defensively, but maybe he's too focused on his own side. Moving him to Bennett's wing might unleash some of his offensive potential.

I think Monahan had his best game of the season. Made some nice plays and was shooting from his usual places.

We are definitely missing Brodie though. This team will look completely different with that added depth (hopefully pushing Engelland out of the line-up).

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

I liked the effort from most of the team last night. Raymond seems to at least be on a hotstreak, but hopefully he figured out that if he wants his family to stay in Calgary, he'll have to start earning his contract.

Bennett has the drive and is determined to score, but something just isn't clicking quite right. It's only a matter of time before he breaks out.

Hiller was good, but not great. Still ahead of Ramo, but I think Ortio should get the next start now and hopefully can run with it.

Agreed Backlund seems noticeably weaker this season. He's slipping into irrelevance and seems non-existent in the offensive zone. I know he's good defensively, but maybe he's too focused on his own side. Moving him to Bennett's wing might unleash some of his offensive potential.

I think Monahan had his best game of the season. Made some nice plays and was shooting from his usual places.

We are definitely missing Brodie though. This team will look completely different with that added depth (hopefully pushing Engelland out of the line-up).

If you are Bob Hartley would you start Ortio? I wouldn't. You have 2 NHL goalies. Why would you roll the dice on someone unproven? Brad needs to sort that mess out.

Highly doubt Engo is the odd man out. Kulak will be assigned, and once a trade or two happens, Kulak will probably be back.

[Toonage]

I wouldn't start Ortio in Winnipeg, but I would start him against Edmonton on Saturday.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

If you are Bob Hartley would you start Ortio? I wouldn't. You have 2 NHL goalies. Why would you roll the dice on someone unproven? Brad needs to sort that mess out.

Highly doubt Engo is the odd man out. Kulak will be assigned, and once a trade or two happens, Kulak will probably be back.

We have 3 NHL goalies, that's the problem.

Ramo was in the NHL at Ortio's age and he ended up darting to the KHL. Ortio has proven he belongs in this league and that's why he's still here even after Treliving said he doesn't want to have a 3 goalie controversy.

If he was an AHL goalie he would be waived and management wouldn't be worried about him getting claimed on waivers.

[darthma]

Starting to think that the puck possession pundits are right. How can you have 4 powerplays in the 1st, and still get outshot so badly. It wasn't just the 2nd period that was a stinker. The first period was just as bad. The only thing that didn't reflect that was the score.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

"And when the middle of the afternoon came, from being a poor poverty-stricken boy in the morning, Tom was literally rolling in wealth." - Mark Twain, Tom Sawyer, 1876

"To his mind, the acme of first class music as such, literally knocking everything else into a cocked hat." - James Joyce, Ulysses, 1922

"He literally glowed; without a word or a gesture of exultation a new well-being radiated from him and filled the little room." - F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby, 1925

"His looks were very haggard, and his limbs and body literally worn to the bone."- Charles Dickens, Nicholas Nickleby, 1839

"After one of those dreadful nights, when we had been literally rocked in our bed." - Jane Austen, Sandition, 1817

Just for the record, it's the people complaining about the "misuse" of literally that are literally misusing the word. It's meaning was set long before any of us had been born.

How has no one pointed this out yet?!

Like nails on a chalkboard... Figuratively.