Federal Election Called for Oct 19, 2015

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by Slava

So just out of curiosity would people prefer that the rest of the countries go ahead with the TPP and Canada just sit this one out? I obviously don't know everything about the agreement, but that does seem like a foolish position to take.

Well, if it's a bad agreement, it wouldn't be foolish to sit it out. The problem is that it affects different people/industries differently. If copyright and internet privacy is important to you, then you might find it a very bad agreement. If you're a dairy farmer, it might be very good.

Interesting discussion about the weeds of the TPP were on yesterday's Canadaland podcast in a discussion with Michael Geist. Certainly worth listening to. Link here.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Even if that were true, then so be it. Trudeau and his "puppet masters" are still a better option than Harper or Muclair

And looking at it more realistically, with Trudeau actually receiving good advise from his team and acting on it, isn't that better than the Harper regime where it was his way or nothing?

Assuming the advice is good, it's OK

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

If its a two horse race like it appears and they both are accepting it I can't really see it having much of an impact. If he came out against it, then it could become a bigger issue.

That's what I mean - he's standing pat and saying "I need to see it", essentially making it a non-issue. If he were to accept it and it turns out to be ugly, it will make things pretty difficult for him after the election once people see the details. While I'm sure that the conservatives and NDP will paint this as being wishy-washy, this is one instance where waiting to commit is pretty responsible.

Mulcair, of course, has nothing to lose by loudly opposing it.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Well, if it's a bad agreement, it wouldn't be foolish to sit it out. The problem is that it affects different people/industries differently. If copyright and internet privacy is important to you, then you might find it a very bad agreement. If you're a dairy farmer, it might be very good.

Interesting discussion about the weeds of the TPP were on yesterday's Canadaland podcast in a discussion with Michael Geist. Certainly worth listening to. Link here.

Well that's the problem though; at this point all we have is some speculation about the specifics in the agreement and what's there. So because of that we can only make some assumptions about whether its good or bad or how different industries are going to be affected. I think that people trying to deride the Liberals for not making definitive comments about it are being somewhat silly. I can't say whether I am for or against the agreement because there isn't enough information, so how could I make a voting decision based on their stance?

[Jacks]

Nice headline at the Globe this morning
"Trudeau says he would tell Putin off ‘to his face’ if he becomes prime minister"
Not sure if that helps Trudeau's campaign, seems more likely to open himself up to be mocked than for people to take that seriously.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Harper busting out the ringers today. In the front row of his speech in Toronto....Doug and Rob Ford.

Former Toronto mayor Rob Ford and his brother, Doug Ford, turned up to support Stephen Harper at the Conservative Leader’s morning campaign stop in Toronto.

Their arrival at a 200-person event was hailed by host Ted Opitz, a local Conservative candidate seeking re-election.

Mr. Opitz welcomed “two great sons of Etobicoke” just before Mr. Harper took the stage to warn Canadians of what he considers the dangers of a Justin Trudeau government.

Doug Ford, a former Toronto city councillor, told media covering the Harper event that his political machine could have mustered 5,000 supporters for a Conservative rally if the campaign wanted it.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle26780176/

The bolded part is great because when he was asked why there isn't 5,000 people here he....switched the subject.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Nice headline at the Globe this morning
"Trudeau says he would tell Putin off ‘to his face’ if he becomes prime minister"
Not sure if that helps Trudeau's campaign, seems more likely to open himself up to be mocked than for people to take that seriously.

Yet if I remember right he complained when Harper told Putin off about the Ukraine.

I guess that maybe he wants to whip out his CF-18's if he becomes Prime Minister.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Nice headline at the Globe this morning
"Trudeau says he would tell Putin off ‘to his face’ if he becomes prime minister"
Not sure if that helps Trudeau's campaign, seems more likely to open himself up to be mocked than for people to take that seriously.

Putin would laugh and pat the top of his head.

I have a hard time thinking that any world leader is going to take Trudeau seriously.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by heep223

I have a hard time thinking that any world leader is going to take Trudeau seriously.

As opposed to a PM who locks himself in the bathroom when he doesn't get what he wants?

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Nice headline at the Globe this morning
"Trudeau says he would tell Putin off ‘to his face’ if he becomes prime minister"
Not sure if that helps Trudeau's campaign, seems more likely to open himself up to be mocked than for people to take that seriously.

Perhaps he'll get in the ring for a few rounds with Vladdy.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by rubecube

As opposed to a PM who locks himself in the bathroom when he doesn't get what he wants?

We need someone who can bust through that political bathroom door - Pistorius style.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by heep223

I have a hard time thinking that any world leader is going to take Trudeau seriously.

Because?...

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Because?...

They'd be distracted by his good looks (hair).

[heep223]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Because?...

Because he's basically been a student his whole life, he's never run anything or managed people, he's young and he's a bleeding heart.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by heep223

Because he's basically been a student his whole life, he's never run anything or managed people, he's young and he's a bleeding heart.

Sound good to me.

And he is soon to be 44. Not that young.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Drak

Sound good to me.



And he is soon to be 44. Not that young.

Yeah there's pros and cons with him just like any other. All I'm saying is that a guy like Putin, who rides bears and crushes his opponents with his iron fists, would probably laugh at Trudeau.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by heep223

Yeah there's pros and cons with him just like any other. All I'm saying is that a guy like Putin, who rides bears and crushes his opponents with his iron fists, would probably laugh at Trudeau.

True. But Putin is a Bond Villain. He laughs at everyone.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Drak

Sound good to me.

And he is soon to be 44. Not that young.

The part about never having run or managed anything, or the other part?

[nik-]

doesn't want to bomb ISIS, wants to get in the face of a former KGB pseudo-dictator of a nuclear state.

[Zarley]

I think the Conservatives made a huge mistake by eschewing the consortium debate. Trudeau sounds good in sound bites, but when he gets away from his talking points he comes across as a neophyte. By replacing the high exposure consortium debates with these obscure, online-only affairs, the Conservatives have limited Trudeau's exposure to sound bites from the debates and closely controlled Liberal messaging.