TSN's NHL Season Preview Show

[Street Pharmacist]

So McDavid is going to be better than Lemieux. Huh.

[mdubz]

Anyone watch the Sportsnet Season Preview? Their Flames segment consisted of them discussing the Canucks and them using more young players in their lineup. *facepalm*

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Anyone watch the Sportsnet Season Preview? Their Flames segment consisted of them discussing the Canucks and them using more young players in their lineup. *facepalm*

I remember them talking about Gaudreau, Monahan and Leah Hextall did a whole video on their upcoming season. Canucks were next

[Hockey Fan #751]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

So McDavid is going to be better than Lemieux. Huh.

What they meant was that according to the one scout (was it David Conte?), McDavid was the most impressive player he'd ever seen in his draft year.

Of course, I don't know how what McDavid did ends up being more impressive than Lemieux's 133 goals and 282 points in 70 games.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

What they meant was that according to the one scout (was it David Conte?), McDavid was the most impressive player he'd ever seen in his draft year.

Of course, I don't know how what McDavid did ends up being more impressive than Lemieux's 133 goals and 282 points in 70 games.

Yeah, that was bizarre. Also somehow more impressive than 6'4" Eric Lindros's 71 goals and 149 points in 57 games. Better than Jaromir Jagr and his team leading 50 points in 51 games in a European pro league as an 18-year old; better than Bure's 18-year-old season with CSKA Moscow. And this is to say nothing of the incredible pre-NHL achievements of Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Teemu Selanne, and Scott Niedermeyer.

This was David Conte's list, and I personally think it is bullocks. For those who don't remember far enough back, the reason why none of Jagr (#4 overall in 1990), Bure (#113 in 1989), and Selanne (#10 in 1988) were drafted with the first or second pick overall is because the European leagues at the time were not well scouted by ANYONE.

Jagr was drafted behind Owen Nolan, Petr Nedved, and Kieth Primeau. Bure wasn't even picked up until the sixth round when the Canucks took a flier on the wide-outside possibility that he might make the move to North America from Russia. Selanne was drafted 10th, behind some great players like Mike Modano, and Jeremy Roenick; but he was also drafted well back of Trever Linden, Derrin Shannon, Scott Pearson, and Martin Gelinas. Yes, the draft is an imperfect science, but the point here is that there was very little known about the Eastern European leagues at the time these players were selected; so much so that I seriously doubt Conte nor anyone else had a good read at all on even one of these players.

He has proved to be a very good scout in years past, but this sort of proclamation is flat out ludicrous.

[polak]

Yeah and he somehow doesn't have Daigle on his list. Like he was the only genius scout who knew he would bust.

That list is full of #### and that scout is also full of ####.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, that was bizarre. Also somehow more impressive than 6'4" Eric Lindros's 71 goals and 149 points in 57 games. Better than Jaromir Jagr and his team leading 50 points in 51 games in a European pro league as an 18-year old; better than Bure's 18-year-old season with CSKA Moscow. And this is to say nothing of the incredible pre-NHL achievements of Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Teemu Selanne, and Scott Niedermeyer.

This was David Conte's list, and I personally think it is bullocks. For those who don't remember far enough back, the reason why none of Jagr (#4 overall in 1990), Bure (#113 in 1989), and Selanne (#10 in 1988) were drafted with the first or second pick overall is because the European leagues at the time were not well scouted by ANYONE.

Jagr was drafted behind Owen Nolan, Petr Nedved, and Kieth Primeau. Bure wasn't even picked up until the sixth round when the Canucks took a flier on the wide-outside possibility that he might make the move to North America from Russia. Selanne was drafted 10th, behind some great players like Mike Modano, and Jeremy Roenick; but he was also drafted well back of Trever Linden, Derrin Shannon, Scott Pearson, and Martin Gelinas. Yes, the draft is an imperfect science, but the point here is that there was very little known about the Eastern European leagues at the time these players were selected; so much so that I seriously doubt Conte nor anyone else had a good read at all on even one of these players.

He has proved to be a very good scout in years past, but this sort of proclamation is flat out ludicrous.

Wasn't Bure's draft controversial? Something about there being a discrepancy with his draft year eligibility, and that almost every other team thought he would only be eligible the following year? I vaguely remember a bit of an outcry over that in the league.

[Da_Chief]

OST season Preview. Focused on Canadian team and awards predictions.

Feedback appreciated.

http://ostalk.podbean.com/e/ostalk-e...eason-preview/

[albertGQ]

If he was honest, he would have Mario or Lindros #1. Those two were so hyped due to how well they played in their draft years.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

What they meant was that according to the one scout (was it David Conte?), McDavid was the most impressive player he'd ever seen in his draft year.

Of course, I don't know how what McDavid did ends up being more impressive than Lemieux's 133 goals and 282 points in 70 games.

Good thing is that Conte hasn't picked anyone worth talking about for awhile now. Don't think he's this great eye for talent anymore.

Having said that, I think what would Impress scouts about McDavid over the others on the list are the hockey sense and 200 foot game that he has at such a young age. Most of the other forwards on that list rarely played in their own zone.

Lemieux didn't have a 200 foot game at all because he was so incredibly good that he always had the puck and did what he wanted at will. He probably coasted a lot in junior despite putting up near 300 points. Honestly with Lemiuex, Im still left with wanting more. I always feel like he could have destroyed Gretzky's records if he really wanted to. He was as skilled as Gretzky but bigger, stronger, and faster.

[FireGilbert]

The central is ridiculously good. I can see the 6th place team having more points than 3rd in the Pacific. It would be funny if the TSN prediction comes true with the Flames 3rd and Jets 6th.