[News] 2015/2016 Waiver Wire

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Dylan Olsen... wouldn't mind picking him up.

I wouldn't...not right now anyway.

The Panthers had him on the team for the first 40 some games and he really played himself out of the lineup. Mostly the mental part of the game too, because he has NHL skills. His preparation is also pretty poor, namely his fitness level.

Does nobody remember the fact he refused to report to the minors right away after being demoted last year? Not the most mature kid.

Here's a pretty telling quote from Tallon:

"There will be healthy competition for jobs and Dylan's got the ability," GM Dale Tallon said. "It's a matter of him getting in a proper frame of mind and [being] physically fit."

The kid was a turnover machine. He makes Justin Schultz look like a top pairing shutdown d-man.

[FBI]

Waiving Raymond right now is so dumb.

You were saying?

[heep223]

Originally Posted by FBI

Waiving Raymond right now is so dumb.

You were saying?

What are you quoting?

[FBI]

Originally Posted by heep223

What are you quoting?

sorry, some long post by CSW

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I'm guessing Tokarski gets picked up by Tampa.

And Erixon...........hahahahahaha.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I'm guessing Tokarski gets picked up by Tampa.

And Erixon...........hahahahahaha.

Did TB release Emery from his PTO? Perhaps Gudlevskis earned the back up job.

EDIT: Seems they did release Emery. But did pick up Kevin Poulin off of waivers recently too.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FBI

sorry, some long post by CSW

You need to quote me if I'm to know to respond .

My comment was more around the urgency to make a decision right now on the asset that is Raymond right now, simply so we can tell Grandlund he has a spot is dumb. But in fairness, that's not how I wrote it, so it's fair to call it out, and it's also fair to suggest that I made the following assumption that wasn't necessarily true: Treliving would potentially want more time to see if Raymond could up his value - based on this move today, I would say he's seen enough already or feels he knows where the market is going to be. And I'd also say I made an assumption (foolishly had I paused to think about it) that there would be a risk at losing Raymond to waivers, which likely isn't the case at all.

So fair ball in calling that out, I was certainly off base on the above facts. My feelings still strongly remain the same on people calling for the waiving of Raymond simply because they want Granlund to be able to say he cracked the roster on opening night. That would be a very dumb move IMO, and based on what Treliving and the Flames have done, they did not waiver Raymond for that reason.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Did TB release Emery from his PTO? Perhaps Gudlevskis earned the back up job.

EDIT: Seems they did release Emery. But did pick up Kevin Poulin off of waivers recently too.

Poulin isn't very good though. I could see them grab Tokarski until Vasilevsky gets back, which won't be for about a month. Might not happen but he's a decent short term band-aid.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

You need to quote me if I'm to know to respond .

My comment was more around the urgency to make a decision right now on the asset that is Raymond right now, simply so we can tell Grandlund he has a spot is dumb. But in fairness, that's not how I wrote it, so it's fair to call it out, and it's also fair to suggest that I made the following assumption that wasn't necessarily true: Treliving would potentially want more time to see if Raymond could up his value - based on this move today, I would say he's seen enough already or feels he knows where the market is going to be. And I'd also say I made an assumption (foolishly had I paused to think about it) that there would be a risk at losing Raymond to waivers, which likely isn't the case at all.

So fair ball in calling that out, I was certainly off base on the above facts. My feelings still strongly remain the same on people calling for the waiving of Raymond simply because they want Granlund to be able to say he cracked the roster on opening night. That would be a very dumb move IMO, and based on what Treliving and the Flames have done, they did not waiver Raymond for that reason.

So why did they waive Raymond? I think it's because he adds 0 or even negative value to the team.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FBI

So why did they waive Raymond? I think it's because he adds 0 or even negative value to the team.

Yes, I think they've decided he's not in our top 12 and there isn't a trade market for him. Not sure if that means he adds 0 or negative value, but it certainly means that they feel they have better options, and they feel they know whether or not he can be traded for assets. This is what I mentioned in paragraph 2 - the other day I assumed Treliving would want more time to asses that situation, clearly not the case, and clearly he feels he knows his answers.

As I mentioned, they still didn't waive Raymond to make room for Granlund, which is what I really think would have been dumb. That's a move you can make at any point in time over the next little bit. No sense rushing that, especially if Granlund isn't in your starting 12 each night.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Poulin isn't very good though. I could see them grab Tokarski until Vasilevsky gets back, which won't be for about a month. Might not happen but he's a decent short term band-aid.

If you're not going to play the back up, why bother picking up another and wasting a roster spot? Poulin will warm the bench til Vasilevsky gets back and then get sent down or traded.

[handgroen]

what time do we find out if anyone's been claimed?

[sureLoss]

always 12 noon et/ 10 am mt

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I got a good laugh of seeing Vey on waivers. When you're too soft even for the Canucks, you might as well hang up the skates.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by handgroen

what time do we find out if anyone's been claimed?

SPOILER ALERT:

Nobody will be claimed.

[Poe969]

There were some good players on waivers, I wouldn't be surprised if someone took a chance on Tokarski.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I wouldn't...not right now anyway.

The Panthers had him on the team for the first 40 some games and he really played himself out of the lineup. Mostly the mental part of the game too, because he has NHL skills. His preparation is also pretty poor, namely his fitness level.

Yeah, but if he corrects those then he doesn't hit the wire.

Everyone on waivers has warts the only question is if you pick them up can they adapt and remove those warts. IMO a 23 year old defenseman with NHL skills is a better bet then most to do that.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Yeah, but if he corrects those then he doesn't hit the wire.

Everyone on waivers has warts the only question is if you pick them up can they adapt and remove those warts. IMO a 23 year old defenseman with NHL skills is a better bet then most to do that.

He has NHL skills, but so does Josh Ho Sang. Some guys are absolutely not worth the risk, especially when you have to keep them on your roster all year long or risk losing them to waivers again.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

He has NHL skills, but so does Josh Ho Sang. Some guys are absolutely not worth the risk, especially when you have to keep them on your roster all year long or risk losing them to waivers again.

So? If they don't adapt and you lose them on waivers then who cares. He'd either do what he needs to do to stay on the roster or he won't and if he won't do that then send him away. I just don't see any risk.

[sureLoss]

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday
#Isles have claimed G J-F Berube off waivers from LAK.