Flames trade for Freddie Hamilton

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

How could you forget Evander and Patrick Kane

Owen and Jordan Nolan too

[topfiverecords]

It was clearly...
Avs: "Let's call Calgary and see what it would take to get Hamilton from them. They're gonna want a ton so lowball them to start"

Roy: "Hey Brad, I'm calling about a trade possibility."
Treliving: "Sure, who are you thinking?"
Roy: "Hamilton"
Treliving: "For what?"
Roy: "Maybe a 7th?"
Treliving: "Sure, I'll have Connie write it up and start the trade call."

Treliving to Conroy: "Hey, just got Freddie Hamilton from Colorado for only a 7th"
Sakic: "Wait, did we trade Freddie?"

[bax]

Glencross released from his PTO with the Avs. Like I said earlier, the Flames aren't in the business of doing favors for former players

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It was clearly...
Avs: "Let's call Calgary and see what it would take to get Hamilton from them. They're gonna want a ton so lowball them to start"

Roy: "Hey Brad, I'm calling about a trade possibility."
Treliving: "Sure, who are you thinking?"
Roy: "Hamilton"
Treliving: "For what?"
Roy: "Maybe a 7th?"
Treliving: "Sure, I'll have Connie write it up and start the trade call."

Treliving to Conroy: "Hey, just got Freddie Hamilton from Colorado for only a 7th"
Sakic: "Wait, did we trade Freddie?"

Take your thanks you brilliant basterd!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by driveway

Right, because it never, ever makes sense to cultivate good business relationships, or to maintain a reputation. Especially in a world as small as the professional hockey world, which - on the management side - we know to be 100% based on merit and in no way shape or form an old-boys-network.

Because the likelihood of a long-term professional remaining in the industry is so small, and giving someone who you have an established relationship with a helping hand if it's also beneficial to you is always, always a stupid idea.

Because hockey is a zero-sum game played by numbers and run by computers.

*ring, ring*
"Hi, Brad? It's Joe. Listen, we want to sign Glennie, but we're up against the limit."
"We'd love to help Glennie out."
"Great, who do you like? My first thought was Freddie would love to play with his brother."
"Would you do a seventh?"
"We can do that."
"Great, write it up."
*click*

The Calgary Flames are not in the business of helping other teams or former players


Maybe they wanted to do a current top end D-man a solid by acquiring his brother not help out a guy that complained about his role last season.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is just the Flames covering their bases after decades of always getting the crap brother.

Wayne Primeau, Rob Niedermayer, Val Bure, etc.

...Markus Granlund....

*runs for cover*

[Locke]

Originally Posted by heep223

...Markus Granlund....

*runs for cover*

Oooh...I'll grant you that at the moment he appears to be the 'less-talented' brother, but the other brothers were hot garbage.

I remember all the proselytizing that we only picked up Rob Neidermayer in hopes of luring Scott.

That turned out exactly as you'd think it would.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

probably the two best brothers in the league since jeff and Anson Carter.

Pretty sure Jeff and Anson are not brothers. I think they are cousins.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oooh...I'll grant you that at the moment he appears to be the 'less-talented' brother, but the other brothers were hot garbage.

I remember all the proselytizing that we only picked up Rob Neidermayer in hopes of luring Scott.

That turned out exactly as you'd think it would.

It kind of hurt more when Anaheim ended up using that ploy, and it worked, and then they won a cup.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It kind of hurt more when Anaheim ended up using that ploy, and it worked, and then they won a cup.

In fairness, they were a bit closer than we were at the time. They had a couple of pieces in place.

[ricardodw]

posted in wrong thread

[getbak]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Has the trade moved back away from the absolute steal for the Flames that it looked like?

Hamilton has moved into the #5 D slot in Calgary and it is not like Wideman and Russell are playing so well that they Hamilton has no opportunity to play his way into the top 4.

It is a similar role that his old team mate Matt Bartkowski is filling with the Canucks. In 2013-14 both Hamilton and Bartkowski play 64 games with the Bruins, each had just over 19 minutes a game and both ended up +22. Hamilton had a great 2014-15 and Bartkowski did not.

Bartkowski was signed by the Canucks to a 1 year 1.75 M deal as a UFA.

On the going out side of the trade :

The Flames gave up Barzal or Connor plus 2nds for Hamilton.

Even using Boston's picks Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson is a ppg Freshman at Boston U and Jeremy Lauzon who is the top scoring d-man in the Q and is +17 (#5 in the league).

As both the Flames and the Bruins are in re-build mode which team helped the rebuild more?

The Bruins got 9 years of low contract ELC and the Flames are paying Hamilton to be a top 2 d-man.

What will the trade look like in 2 years?

I think you're in the wrong Hamilton trade thread.

Freddie is tied for the team lead in both goals and points in Stockton right now.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by getbak

I think you're in the wrong Hamilton trade thread.

Freddie is tied for the team lead in both goals and points in Stockton right now.

oops

[Poe969]

How the hell is Hamilton our #5??? He's been our second best defenseman for a few games. Before Christmas our top pairing will be Brodie and Hamilton. I think your Frolik hate is spilling over a bit to the wrong players.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Poe969

How the hell is Hamilton our #5??? He's been our second best defenseman for a few games. Before Christmas our top pairing will be Brodie and Hamilton. I think your Frolik hate is spilling over a bit to the wrong players.

Define "good". He's been ok to average and Hartley is sheltering him like crazy.

He was fifth in ice time among dmen last night and in Florida and has looked average.

He can't complete a breakout pass to save his life, pinches at the wrong time and is very soft and that includes the last few games. He's also not willing to take the body and is playing way too soft.

He's been our number 5 defenceman for at least 2 weeks, don't know what games you've been watching.

[getbak]

FREDDIE Hamilton.


This is the FREDDIE Hamilton thread!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

posted in wrong thread

Isn't it embarrassing when you find yourself under the wrong bridge?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Locke

In fairness, they were a bit closer than we were at the time. They had a couple of pieces in place.

Were they though? Those teams were probably at close places in the development cycle at that point in time. With both having dark horse success on the back of good playoff runs.

Rob was traded from here to Anaheim in 02/03.

Ducks lost in the finals in 02/03 but failed to make the playoffs in 03/04.

Flames lost in the finals in 03/04 then won their division in 05/06.

Scott signed with the Ducks on August 5th 2005 and it was his arrival that turned that team around. (Kariya had already moved on, Selanne had just returned on a show me contract after a couple of poor seasons).

If anything the Flames were ahead of the Ducks at that stage in their development. Ducks beat the Flames in 7 with Scott on their team already, Flames likely win that series if Scott is here.

[Azhouse]

Pronger helped

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Azhouse

Pronger helped

Should have won the Conn Smythe (yes, I know he got suspended twice)