10-05-2015, 10:36 AM
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#61
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Byron didn't seem as quick as mid-season last year. He wasn't really a standout in camp over guys like Granlund or Jooris. I was a bit down on Grannie last year, but he had a great camp IMO.
Raymond was a no-brainer IMO. That said, maybe he can turn his game around a bit and be a leader there (that happens so rarely though). Seems like a nice guy - hope he can handle it well.
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Did you want me to read the first time you posted this? or the second?
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10-05-2015, 10:36 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Happy that Raymond was waived, it's the right decision. Bit indifferent about Byron - I like him and don't necessarily want to lose him on waivers, but I think the Flames can easily cope if somebody puts in a claim.
Would be shocked if Raymond was claimed. As for Byron, it could easily go either way imo
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10-05-2015, 10:38 AM
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#63
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Call me crazy but I could see the Leafs picking up Raymond
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10-05-2015, 10:40 AM
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#64
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
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I feel for Byron but I never thought he had a secure roster spot heading into the off season and was a little surprised he was signed. I think he needs a little rehab as he is coming off of some injuries/surgeries. Playing big minutes in Stockton might be the best thing for him for a little while.
Buh bye Raymond.
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10-05-2015, 10:41 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Granlund will be a 35-40 pt player this year if he stays healthy.
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10-05-2015, 10:43 AM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
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Byron and Raymond were outperformed by Granland and Hathaway. Byron really has become redundant unfortunately with our increased depth. Bollig looks better and quicker this year and both Jooris and Hathaway bring speed, size and physical play but have a significant size/strength edge on Byron.
Be interesting to see how this shakes out over the next month.
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10-05-2015, 10:43 AM
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#67
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I'm not big on Byron so I'm fine with both of these moves.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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10-05-2015, 10:48 AM
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#68
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
In the last two seasons, if you isolate for Forwards with
1) CorsiRel > +3.0%
2) Offensive Zone Faceoff % < 33%
3) Defensive Zone Faceoff % > 33%
Wanna guess how many players there are that fit these three basic criterion? Wanna guess who they are?
Patrice Bergeron
Mikael Backlund
Paul Stastny
Joe Thornton
Gabriel Landeskog
Paul Byron
Even if you say, "well the other five are way better players than Byron", that still means.. there's no other Byron in the NHL.
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And if you add in a 4th point of criterion....
4) Effective everyday NHLer
The list shrinks to
Patrice Bergeron
Mikael Backlund
Paul Stastny
Joe Thornton
Gabriel Landeskog
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10-05-2015, 10:51 AM
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#69
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PEI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Call me crazy but I could see the Leafs picking up Raymond
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Alright Crazy, no one is going to take Raymond.
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10-05-2015, 10:53 AM
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#70
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If these two, along with Granlund, get assigned to Stockton, that team should be pretty damn solid while they are there.
I would also expect some of our prospects to spend time with the Thunder so as to get more ice time.
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10-05-2015, 10:54 AM
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#71
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Glastonbury
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I like the message this sends to the room, it's consistent with what Hartley has said from day one. Earn your spot.
I expect both to clear and be given a chance to be called up.... I'm fine with both.
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10-05-2015, 10:54 AM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
Call me crazy but I could see the Leafs picking up Raymond
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If they wouldn't sign Glencross to a league minimum contract no way in hell they are paying Raymonds contract.
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10-05-2015, 10:56 AM
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#73
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First Line Centre
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Byron claimed.
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10-05-2015, 10:58 AM
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#74
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyZ
And if you add in a 4th point of criterion....
4) Effective everyday NHLer
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That would turn your criterion into...
1: Quantifable Fact
2: Quantifable Fact
3: Quantifable Fact
4: Subjective Opinion
... one of those things is not like the other.
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10-05-2015, 11:00 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Surprised. Especially since we just need 1 roster move, don't we?
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Gives us flexibility if a team is trying to sneak somebody we really like through waivers.
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10-05-2015, 11:00 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Kind of sad to see Byron go, but that sadness was quickly replaced by great joy when I saw Raymond's. Good riddance.
Now who will be the CP whipping boy?
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10-05-2015, 11:02 AM
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#77
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
That would turn your criterion into...
1: Quantifable Fact
2: Quantifable Fact
3: Quantifable Fact
4: Subjective Opinion
... one of those things is not like the other.
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And this is why analytics breaks down. Because if you want to play the "one of these things is not like the other" game, then here you go:
Patrice Bergeron
Mikael Backlund
Paul Stastny
Joe Thornton
Gabriel Landeskog
Paul Byron
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10-05-2015, 11:04 AM
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#78
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Scoring Winger
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THE SCORE app on my phone just notified me that Granlund was also sent down?
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10-05-2015, 11:06 AM
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#79
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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What are the options if Raymond clears?
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10-05-2015, 11:07 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parallex
That would turn your criterion into...
1: Quantifable Fact
2: Quantifable Fact
3: Quantifable Fact
4: Subjective Opinion
... one of those things is not like the other.
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Well a quantifiable fact is that the Quality of Competition that those other players face is much higher than what Byron faces.
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