[News] Flames put Byron and Raymond on waivers. UPD: Byron claimed by Habs - Page 2 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

killer_carlson · 10-05-2015, 10:10 AM

I bet both clear.

There are lots of Byron's around the league - 13th forwards who can show flashes at times. He'll clear and stick around as.... our 13th forward for most of the season imo.

codynw · 10-05-2015, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mikephoen

Byron should get claimed, no chance Raymond does. Byron is a 4th liner, but he's an effective 4th liner and should be an upgrade for at least a few teams.

I'm hoping he clears though as he is a useful depth player.

It's rare that a player is claimed off waivers, especially at this time of year. I bet he clears.

AC · 10-05-2015, 10:11 AM

22 man roster if both are assigned. Byron may be just going on waivers now to avoid having to put him on later.

GOALTENDERS - 3
1 - Jonas Hiller
31 - Karri Ramo
37 - Joni Ortio

DEFENCEMEN - 6
4 - Kris Russell
5 - Mark Giordano
6 - Dennis Wideman
27 - Dougie Hamilton
29 - Deryk Engelland
61 - Brett Kulak

FORWARDS - 13
11 - Mikael Backlund
13 - Johnny Gaudreau
16 - Josh Jooris
17 - Lance Bouma
18 - Matt Stajan
19 - David Jones
23 - Sean Monahan
24 - Jiri Hudler
52 - Brandon Bollig
60 - Markus Granlund
67 - Micheal Frolik
79 - Micheal Ferland
93 - Sam Bennett

INJURED RESERVE - 3
7 - TJ Brodie
8 - Joe Colborne
15 - Ladislav Smid

tvp2003 · 10-05-2015, 10:11 AM

I bet both go unclaimed. Byron might be the first call-up; Raymond needs to find his game and hopefully will do so in Stockton.

Flash Walken · 10-05-2015, 10:12 AM

Surprised.

This pretty much signals that Raymond has 0 value league wide, as a demotion of this nature pretty much removes any perceived value he might have had from the Flames point of view.

Demetric · 10-05-2015, 10:12 AM

being on waivers does not mean they will be sent down if clears, just that they can be, iirc. There is a time or number of games window that is also in affect I believe

Imported_Aussie · 10-05-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AC

Surprised. Especially since we just need 1 roster move, don't we?

If they clear, they can be demoted any time within next 30 days/10 NHL games, so this just gives the Flames a window to demote, or see if another team takes them off their hands

DoubleF · 10-05-2015, 10:14 AM

If 22, we have an open roster spot? Potentially snap up someone on waivers? (This threat alone might scare some teams to hold on a player longer) Or... maybe a trade?

Red Menace · 10-05-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Surprised.

This pretty much signals that Raymond has 0 value league wide, as a demotion of this nature pretty much removes any perceived value he might have had from the Flames point of view.

and that's is surprising??

Ashasx · 10-05-2015, 10:14 AM

Really surprised about Byron.

skudr248 · 10-05-2015, 10:15 AM

FINALLY!

Bandwagon In Flames · 10-05-2015, 10:15 AM

There is a chance that Byron get's picked up if there's a team looking to add speed and can sacrifice size. I'm assuming he'll come back up as the 13th forward otherwise and get sent back down once Colborne is back.

Fire · 10-05-2015, 10:16 AM

I was hoping Raymond would get waived but I never truly believe it would happen. Zero chance he gets picked up.

Surprised Byron is on waivers because Hartley is a big fan by all accounts.

killer_carlson · 10-05-2015, 10:18 AM

So is the call to demote Raymond, or is the strategy to light a fire under his butt and hope he becomes Wideman 2.0 this season?

Coach · 10-05-2015, 10:19 AM

Ok sureLoss, you got some 'splainin to do.

Why would we waive all three of these guys? What rule allows Byron and Raymond to be waived, but not report to Stockton?

underGRADFlame · 10-05-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Linden Vey waived!

Gotta think someone picks him up.

topfiverecords · 10-05-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rejean31

I kind of hope Byron clears. Raymond? Hopefully someone puts in a claim.

It'll be the reverse

Jiggy · 10-05-2015, 10:20 AM

For people who say the Flames management doesn't always go by "always earned, never given". This just proves they do. Both players will be back eventually when injuries occur.

Cleveland Steam Whistle · 10-05-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AC

Surprised. Especially since we just need 1 roster move, don't we?

I'm going to guess that it's pretty clear on the Byron front that they are a fans of him, but just don't see him getting any regular playing time on this roster unless we incur a bunch of injuries. I'm betting this is a "we'll give you a shot to play somewhere" class move by the Flames. They'd rather have the asset, but if someone is willing to play him they are going to give Byron a shot.

Surprised by the Raymond waive at this point, but guessing he'll clear with ease. Doubt anyone will want his contract at this point with no action so far in the pre-season, so I doubt this clears him from our books.

mikephoen · 10-05-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by codynw

It's rare that a player is claimed off waivers, especially at this time of year. I bet he clears.

I agree actually, I worded my post poorly. I think he is an upgrade for a lot of teams, and they should claim him, but they won't because they have a guy they want to give the time to.

But Byron is a million times more likely to be claimed than Raymond.