10-04-2015, 07:49 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I wonder if this was something the Flames did specifically to influence Glencross getting signed, and the condition on the pick is the Avs get the pick only if they sign Glencross. That would be very interesting.
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That would seem really odd to me. I would expect it to have more to do with Freddie's performance in Calgary. However, I do think that giving the Avs the room to sign Glencross probably had something to do with it. Seems like both teams were just fitting partners for this type of transaction.
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10-04-2015, 07:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Come on.. this is a business. If the Flames were so worried about Glencross getting a contract they'd give him one themselves. This has nothing to do with that.
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10-04-2015, 07:54 PM
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#43
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Come on.. this is a business. If the Flames were so worried about Glencross getting a contract they'd give him one themselves. This has nothing to do with that.
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Ultimately, you could be right, but it would be in spite of your faulty logic. The Flames have no room on this team for Glencross, but if he has room to make another team they may do a little to help that situation if they could. Saying "If they wanted to help him they'd sign him here" is kind of absurd.
You're right that hockey is a business, but like another poster mentioned, sometimes it's good business to help another team out if it works for you now and could lead to good business relations down the road. So if you can see that helping the Av's out by taking a contract (one that also benefits the Flames by making two brothers, one of which is an all star defensemen, happy) and helps a former player who gave so much to the organization and is now in a tough, slightly embarrassing situation, you do it.
This is a really a minor deal that's a win, win for both organizations, imo.
Last edited by jayswin; 10-04-2015 at 07:57 PM.
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10-04-2015, 07:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Ultimately, you could be right, but it would be in spite of your faulty logic. The Flames have no room on this team for Glencross, but if he has room to make another team they may do a little to help that situation if they could. Saying "If they wanted to help him they'd sign him here" is kind of absurd.
You're right that hockey is a business, but like another poster mentioned, sometimes it's good business to help another team out if it works for you now and could lead to good business relations down the road.
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Perhaps it was all of this and...
"oh yeah, and we gave you a 2nd for Berra."
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10-04-2015, 07:56 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GettinIggyWithIt
That would seem really odd to me. I would expect it to have more to do with Freddie's performance in Calgary. However, I do think that giving the Avs the room to sign Glencross probably had something to do with it. Seems like both teams were just fitting partners for this type of transaction.
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I could see Glencross being a great consequence and reason to do the deal, but not remotely close to the reason the deal was done in the first place. Won't know unless Treliving decides to explain things to the fans.
It's amazing how much potential good will Treliving may potentially collect from: Freddie, Dougie, Avs and Glencross though. Less likely on the latter two though. Furthermore, it could be a neat little locker room boost in the minors. Freddie might work extra hard for his shot to reunite with his bro. That's great juju and attitude to have in a locker room.
EDIT: Read a prospect write up that says Freddie is a defensive D with good IQ. Won't give you much in terms of points but is supposed to be a good locker room presence.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospec...ddie_hamilton/
Last edited by DoubleF; 10-04-2015 at 08:19 PM.
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10-04-2015, 07:59 PM
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#46
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Come on.. this is a business. If the Flames were so worried about Glencross getting a contract they'd give him one themselves. This has nothing to do with that.
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I don't disagree. More likely that the Avs called and said they want to sign Glencross but need to get rid of a contract, and would the Flames be interested in taking Freddie of their hands for a nominal price (conditional 7th). Flames just acquired Dougie, the acquisition cost is low, and while helping the Avs they get Dougie's older brother in the system. Actually works out for both teams. Then again....maybe it didn't happen that way. Who knows.
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10-04-2015, 07:59 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
I wonder what will come first, Dougie will become Doug or Freddie will become Fred?
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Dougie Gilmour. Still after all these years.
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10-04-2015, 08:19 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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The Flames and Avs are in the same conference and could compete for a wild card position this year. They aren't going to pal around and give up contract spots to help the other out.
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10-04-2015, 08:22 PM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Good insurance move if they have to put Byron on waivers. Maybe it was in the works before Shore was waived as insurance as well.
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10-04-2015, 08:49 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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I was once high on him. He's stuck in our forward depth but will help Stockton. May play a few games up here but idk if he's ready.
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10-04-2015, 08:51 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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So...do the disgruntled Oilers ("We offered a 6th!!!") trade for Max now?
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10-04-2015, 08:54 PM
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#52
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Field near Field, AB
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Treliving Sedin'ed the future.
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10-04-2015, 08:58 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Now here's the Hamilton that I was hoping we'd end up with all along. After beginning to come to terms with the fact that we may have to settle with Dougie, this comes as an astounding surprise.
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10-04-2015, 09:15 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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We've got Dougie and Freddie and Joshie and Markie and Paulie and Brodie and Matty and Masey and Mikey and Joey and Johnny and Seany and coach Bobby. Gonna be an exciting season.
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10-04-2015, 10:07 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Don't forget our boy Sammy!!
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10-04-2015, 10:15 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by YYC in LAX
We've got Dougie and Freddie and Joshie and Markie and Paulie and Brodie and Matty and Masey and Mikey and Joey and Johnny and Seany and coach Bobby. Gonna be an exciting season.
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You forgot the other real one, Kenney Morrison!
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10-04-2015, 10:22 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by AC
You forgot the other real one, Kenney Morrison!
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At the Prospects tournament, they said that Agostino also prefers Kenny.
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10-04-2015, 10:28 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YYC in LAX
We've got Dougie and Freddie and Joshie and Markie and Paulie and Brodie and Matty and Masey and Mikey and Joey and Johnny and Seany and coach Bobby. Gonna be an exciting season.
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Read that in Hartleys voice.
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10-04-2015, 10:36 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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He's a right shot like his brother but as a forward. We aren't exactly armed to the teeth with those. Gives Hathaway and Smith some competition on the right side in AHL.
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