Hathaway, Sieloff, Wotherspoon, Nakladal, Morrison to Stockton. UPD: Shore clears

[Toonage]

I would be genuinely surprised if Mason Raymond stays and Granlund is demoted. Placing Raymond on waivers sends a message, gives you the chance to rid yourself of him completely and at the very least saves a bit of money. Sending Granlund down, while easier, just tells players that their efforts will only take them so far.

[Enoch Root]

Congratulations to Kulak for outlasting the others.

He has looked really good in camp - better than I would have ever guessed.

[foshizzle11]

So, that leaves 6 healthy Dmen with contracts with the flames.

Kulak, Gio, Dougie, Engelland, Wideman, Russell.

Injured: Smid and Brodie.

PTO: Wilson.

I just don't see them signing Wilson. Brodie and Smid both expected back in October at some point, I just don't see it.

Kulak is the 7th guy this season it seems for now, hopefully he can take a spot away from Smid/Engelland and get more playing time than them this season. I like his game.

The only surprise today was Nakladal getting sent down, I wasn't sure what would happen with him. But I like the move. He could use some time getting used to the NA game before playing in the NHL. He didn't look comfortable last night.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by foshizzle11

I just don't see them signing Wilson. Brodie and Smid both expected back in October at some point, I just don't see it.

I agree with this. Reading about the possibility of them starting with 3 goalies, I can see this being the reality. 6D, 3 goalies to start.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I hope we don't sign Wilson.

We already have too many d-men.

Happy for Kulak though, really stepped up and grabbed the opportunity. Another one of those Flames 4th rounders.

Kinda feel for Wotherspoon, but he just doesn't have that 1 skill that really allows him to step up and impress. Needs to use this as motivation and play with more of a chip on his shoulder.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Wow, that is kind of surprising in that there are now only 7 healthy defensemen in camp including Wilson.

Would have thought they would keep (at least) one more than that until the last minute.

I think Smid being close to healthy has a lot to do with it.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Really hope they don't sign Wilson unless it's a 2 way contract so they can send him down to Stockton.

Not trying to call you out here or anything, but I'm just curious on this.

I thought I remember reading somewhere that 1-way vs 2-way has less to do with waivers/demotions to the AHL, and more to do with the salary that the player earns in the minors. Like, on a 1-way, the player earns his full NHL salary wherever he is, and on a 2-way, the AHL salary has a certain limit on it.

Can someone in the know clarify that for me? I thought I read that waiver eligibility is based on games played in the NHL, rather than 1 vs 2 way contracts.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

Not trying to call you out here or anything, but I'm just curious on this.

I thought I remember reading somewhere that 1-way vs 2-way has less to do with waivers/demotions to the AHL, and more to do with the salary that the player earns in the minors. Like, on a 1-way, the player earns his full NHL salary wherever he is, and on a 2-way, the AHL salary has a certain limit on it.

Can someone in the know clarify that for me? I thought I read that waiver eligibility is based on games played in the NHL, rather than 1 vs 2 way contracts.

I believe you are correct Stealth.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

I think Smid being close to healthy has a lot to do with it.

That is likely true

Question: can Wilson remain on a PTO beyond opening day? Or must they commit one way or the other?

It would be sneaky-smart to keep him around on his PTO while they iron out other decisions.

[MissTeeks]

@SUNGilbertson: #Flames head coach Bob Hartley with strong words on D Tyler Wotherspoon. "We told him you need to be a little tougher on yourself."

[MissTeeks]

@NHLFlames: Bob Hartley has given an update on Joe Colborne: he is week-to-week with a thumb injury.

@NHLFlames: Joe Colborne says he and the team are hopeful that he will be able to avoid surgery on his thumb.

[Toonage]

Having broken my own thumb a few years back (and not requiring surgery or a cast) I recall it being a month before I could grip anything and another month before I was confident it wasn't going to snap backward on me again. This really can't be applied to Colborne's situation as each break is unique, but I wanted to share.

[Poe969]

That sucks about Colborne, I really thought he'd do well this year. I still think he's going to come back and be amazing, it just sucks that it won't be right away.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

I think Smid being close to healthy has a lot to do with it.

This. He's already doing contact drills no?

[Finger Cookin]

Colborne's done. I don't see why the Flames would continue to invest the time in him when both his hands and wrists are ####ed. It's too bad, he looks like he has a lot of untapped potential.

My two cents.

[3rd line Grinder]

wait, when did wotherspoon get cut?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Colborne's done. I don't see why the Flames would continue to invest the time in him when both his hands and wrists are ####ed. It's too bad, he looks like he has a lot of untapped potential.

My two cents.

well, as long as we're not over-reacting...

[OldSam]

Feel terrible for Joe. He wants to be a Flame so bad and he has had nothing but bad luck with injuries. Get well soon.

Bob not mincing words with Tyler. Sure tells it like it is. Anyone wonder if this is Tyler's last chance?

[herashak]

I havent watched really any pres season hockey. Did kulak look like a legit NHL dman? Ive always been high on his pro potential.

[Benched]

Originally Posted by 3rd line Grinder

wait, when did wotherspoon get cut?

a few minutes ago along with Nakladal