[News] Curtis Glencross Retires

[Cali Panthers Fan]

"Hey, this Glencross thread keeps getting bumped to the top. I wonder if he earned a contract with someone or was released?"

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Nope, just the same arguments about Glencross' value that have been going on for the past 3-4 years. Honestly people, unless you're bringing something new to a discussion about Glencross...just stop. It's making my eyes bleed.

[Poe969]

Lol then stay the heck out of the Kane rape investigation thread. Every day I'm not sure if he's been charged, found not guilty or accused of raping someone else. Instead it's people arguing about who knows more about the law. At least this one is hockey related lol.

What was Glencross' last contract?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Lol then stay the heck out of the Kane rape investigation thread. Every day I'm not sure if he's been charged, found not guilty or accused of raping someone else. Instead it's people arguing about who knows more about the law. At least this one is hockey related lol.

What was Glencross' last contract?

Ugh...no worries, I haven't touched that thread with a 10 foot pole for weeks. I knew that if something significant had happened there would be an update in the thread title or a brand new thread.

And yes, this one is hockey related, but it's about hockey that happened years ago and a player that is no longer on the Flames. I don't know why people can't just let it go.

[Poe969]

Ok, what was Glencross' last contract? and what do people realistically think he could or should have got on the open market?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Crazy to think the Avs have all those former Flames, who were once upon a time all in their prime with the Flames, yet had pretty much no team success. Now they are all 5 years older, but on the same team yet again. At least that bodes well for where the Flames will stand at seasons end.

Even crazier to think many people last year thought they were the "best young team in the NHL"

[sureLoss]

Mike Chambers @MikeChambers
Curtis Glencross says originally chose PTO in TOR over #Avs b/c exposure, including preseason TV. But better suited in COL, closer to CAL

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Mike Chambers @MikeChambers
Curtis Glencross says originally chose PTO in TOR over #Avs b/c exposure, including preseason TV. But better suited in COL, closer to CAL

"I totally wanted to be released from Toronto so I could play here".

Colorado may be physically closer to Calgary, but travel is a lot easier from Toronto to Calgary methinks.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Even crazier to think many people last year thought they were the "best young team in the NHL"

What the heck are they doing there?

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Can someone please explain to me how his contract with the Flames was a hometown discount? Honestly, I don't know why people keep calling it that. It wasn't like he went from a 9 million dollar contract to a 6 million dollar contract, he left a little money on the table to get a full NTC or NMC or whatever and he got term. He was not ever good enough to get top dollar, term and an NTC.

Great guy and all and valued his time here when he contributed but people are making him out to be a saint or something for all the money he left on the table with that huge hometown discount he gave the Flames.

Glencross himself said he left money on the table. Therefore he took a discount.

“If I could do it again … as much as I love (Calgary) and call it home and met great people, at the same time, when it’s time for you to cash in, you have to take advantage and cash in. You can’t take a pay-cut or hometown discount because things change.”

So it doesn't matter if you, I, or anybody else thinks it wasn't a discount. By the players admission, it was. The amount is something that only those involved in the negotiation know. But I don't know why people keep saying he didn't take one. He did. He said so himself. Unless you think he's lying.

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Mike Chambers @MikeChambers
Curtis Glencross says originally chose PTO in TOR over #Avs b/c exposure, including preseason TV. But better suited in COL, closer to CAL

I think the real reason is Glencross just has a better chance making the leafs than Avs

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I like the guy more than most on here and would like to see him earn a nice payday with the Avs.

A player on his 2nd PTO is not getting a nice big contract. If he earns a contract at all, it'll be one year at or near league minimum.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

"Hey, this Glencross thread keeps getting bumped to the top. I wonder if he earned a contract with someone or was released?"

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Nope, just the same arguments about Glencross' value that have been going on for the past 3-4 years. Honestly people, unless you're bringing something new to a discussion about Glencross...just stop. It's making my eyes bleed.

thoughts and prayers

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Glencross himself said he left money on the table. Therefore he took a discount.



So it doesn't matter if you, I, or anybody else thinks it wasn't a discount. By the players admission, it was. The amount is something that only those involved in the negotiation know. But I don't know why people keep saying he didn't take one. He did. He said so himself. Unless you think he's lying.

He could be fooling himself, not lying. Perhaps the Flames didn;t think it was a discount (considering the NMC and term).

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Glencross himself said he left money on the table. Therefore he took a discount.



So it doesn't matter if you, I, or anybody else thinks it wasn't a discount. By the players admission, it was. The amount is something that only those involved in the negotiation know. But I don't know why people keep saying he didn't take one. He did. He said so himself. Unless you think he's lying.

By his admission it was a discount but by his admission he also thought he'd get a 4 year 17 million dollar deal so you have to take that into consideration. He clearly over values himself and maybe he thought he could have got 6 million on his last contract but did the Flames a favour.

Realistically though, did he leave money on the table or did the Flames say you can have this much or you can have this much with a NTC.

I still don't know what his last contract was. I know it wasn't that out of whack with what other players of his skillset were making.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

"Hey, this Glencross thread keeps getting bumped to the top. I wonder if he earned a contract with someone or was released?"

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Nope, just the same arguments about Glencross' value that have been going on for the past 3-4 years. Honestly people, unless you're bringing something new to a discussion about Glencross...just stop. It's making my eyes bleed.

Agreed very sick of reading about it. Here's some news:

Roy promised Glencross he will play with Duchene and Iginla

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/30...nvite-from-avs

[Huntingwhale]

His last one was 4y/10.2mil. That contract started in 2011. So his numbers the year before (his contract year 2010-2011) was 24g-19a-43pts. Other wingers within range that year include:

Penner
D. Jones
E. Kane
Bertuzzi
Neal

Too lazy to look up what their pay was that season but I'm sure some players were over, some were under. I just remember the universal consensus at the time was that it was a steal of a contract. One of the best in the league for a guy who could potentially score 30g, yet was often injured.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by saillias

Agreed very sick of reading about it. Here's some news:

Roy promised Glencross he will play with Duchene and Iginla

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/30...nvite-from-avs

Alex Tanguay trade request incoming.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by codynw

A player on his 2nd PTO is not getting a nice big contract. If he earns a contract at all, it'll be one year at or near league minimum.

I hear you. Guess what I'm saying is that I'd like to see him continue his NHL career for a while. $1m/year is not exactly chump change.

[Resolute 14]

That is rather silly on Roy's part.

Derek Wills talked about Glencross in the pre-game last night, and he made a lot of sense in arguing how Glencross is a better fit in Colorado than Toronto because Toronto was looking for a top line forward - which Curtis simply isn't anymore - but the Avs need depth scoring. That is something he can provide. But still, not on the first line.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

His last one was 4y/10.2mil. That contract started in 2011. So his numbers the year before (his contract year 2010-2011) was 24g-19a-43pts. Other wingers within range that year include:

Penner
D. Jones
E. Kane
Bertuzzi
Neal

Too lazy to look up what their pay was that season but I'm sure some players were over, some were under. I just remember the universal consensus at the time was that it was a steal of a contract. One of the best in the league for a guy who could potentially score 30g, yet was often injured.

So it was a decent contract for both sides. If other people are signing for the same, around the same or less then you're not that far off market value.