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Old 09-28-2015, 01:35 PM   #41
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Yeah, most people are apathetic to exploration or science. Not sure how we change people's attitudes towards these things though? We can't. If they don't care, they don't care.
Contact with an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization/species would do it.
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:37 PM   #42
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Contact with an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization/species would do it.
A near Miss from a big asteroid/comet would certainly get our butts in gear too.

OR.... China and US getting into a space race.
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:44 PM   #43
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Contact with an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization/species would do it.
Yup. Could we handle that though?
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The premise for extraplanetary settlements is a bit funny to me. So we trash Earth, and then what, move on to Mars and trash it?
A good (very very long)article - SpaceX and Elon Musk related. Page 2 has information about the importance of "backing up" the human race.

At the rate humankind is progressing it is extremely important that we look beyond our planet. In the next 100 years we will see an even bigger explosion in technology, artificial intelligence, etc.


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Species extinctions are kind of like human deaths—they’re happening constantly, at a mild and steady rate. But a mass extinction event is, for species, like a war or a sweeping epidemic is for humans—an unusual event that kills off a large chunk of the population in one blow. Humans have never experienced a mass extinction event, and if one happened, there’s a reasonable chance it would end the human race—either because the event itself would kill us (like a collision with a large enough asteroid), or the effects of an event would (like something that decimates the food supply or dramatically changes the temperature or atmospheric composition).
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There are other signs pointing to this being an extraordinarily unusual time to be alive:
  • For 99.8% of human history, the world population was under 1 billion people. In the last .2% of that history, it has crossed the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 billion marks.
  • Up until 25 years ago, there had never been such a thing as a global brain of godlike information access and connectivity on this planet. Today we have the internet.
  • After barely using any energy for the first 99,800 years of human history, in the last 200 we’ve suddenly thrust ourselves into the Fossil Fuels Era, blowing through a huge chunk of stored underground carbon energy, without fully understanding the implications of doing so.
  • Humans walked around or rode horses for 999 of the last 1,000 centuries. In this century, we drive cars, fly planes, and land on the moon.
  • If extra-terrestrial life were looking for other life in the universe, it would be dramatically easier to find us this century than in any century before, as we project millions of signals out into space.
  • With an average of one mass extinction event every 100 million years since animals have been around, we may be currently engineering a sixth one by accident.
If we take a step back and just look at the situation, it should be clear that nothing that’s happening right now is normal. Current humans have FAR more power than any life on Earth ever has, and it seems very likely that if in a billion years, an alien history major writes a term paper on the history of life on Earth, the time we’re living in right now—however it turns out—will be a major part of that paper.
This guy has a ton of good articles on solar power, the fermi paradox, artificial intelligence, etc.
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The premise for extraplanetary settlements is a bit funny to me. So we trash Earth, and then what, move on to Mars and trash it?
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/modes...desonfire.html

Well, the lampshades’s on fire when the lights go out
This is what I really call a party now
Well, fear makes us really, really run around
This one’s done so where to now?

Our eyes light up, we have no shame at all
Well you all know what I’m talking’ about
Shaved off my eyebrows when I fall to the ground
So I can’t look surprised right now

Pack up again, head to the next place
Where we'll make the same mistakes
Burn it up, or just chop it down
Ah, this one's done so where to now?

The air’s on fire so we’re movin’ on
Better find another one ‘cause this one’s done
Waitin’ for the magic when the scientists glow
To push, push, push, push, pull us up

Spend some time to float in outer space
Find another planet, make the same mistakes
Our mind’s all shattered when we climb aboard
Hopin’ for the scientists to find another door

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Meh, call me when I can buy Mars water in a bottle of Evian.
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Meh, call me when I can buy Mars water in a bottle of Evian.
You can expect Mars water as much as you can expect freshly bottled goodness from the French Alps.
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No. Microbes have survived on the outside of space craft from Earth to the Moon and back.
Does this mean that it is impossible to sterilize a turd?
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Does this mean that it is impossible to sterilize a turd?
There's been a few attempts to clean up a turd...



... Guess not.
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Yeah, most people are apathetic to exploration or science. Not sure how we change people's attitudes towards these things though? We can't. If they don't care, they don't care.
This is true. And yet, we depend on (constantly evolving) science and technologies every day to maintain our standards of living and propel our race forward.

I'll never understand apathy towards exploration and science. These are two fields that have evolved us over the last one hundred years more than anything, and they're only going to get bigger and bigger.
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... Guess not.
I actually thought that was Justin Bieber with a swollen jaw.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:23 PM   #55
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What happens if we meet an extraterrestrial like us?
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:43 PM   #56
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What happens if we meet an extraterrestrial like us?
Depends on what you mean like us haha.
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The premise for extraplanetary settlements is a bit funny to me. So we trash Earth, and then what, move on to Mars and trash it?
Yes?! Why not, get a couple of thousand years' use out of and move again. Most people don't spend their entire lives in the same house dude.
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Depends on what you mean like us haha.
Violent, insecure, and dishonest. Honestly, I don't fall for the Sagan nonsense that ETs are the great answer to mankind's problem. If they are anything like us, we should hide, and if they aren't like us, they won't want anything to do with us.
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Yes?! Why not, get a couple of thousand years' use out of and move again. Most people don't spend their entire lives in the same house dude.
4 billion years of evolution. This planet, for better or worse; is our home. That said, we don't feel like this is our home.
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